克里希纳穆提讲话视频字幕-注意力与秩序 问答一
[p=30, 2, left][font=Times New Roman]Attention and Order QA1[/font][font=宋体]注意力[font=Verdana]与[/font]秩序 问答一[/font][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][font=Times New Roman]Ojai California, 1984
[/font][font=宋体]加州欧亥,[/font][font=Times New Roman]1984[/font][font=宋体]年[/font][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There have been a lot of questions sent in.
[/font][font=宋体]有很多问题被提了出来。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And we have chosen some of those questions.
[/font][font=宋体]我们选了其中的一些问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are going to examine the questions, not the answers.
[/font][font=宋体]我们将仔细检视这些问题,而不是答案。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It's a dialogue...
[/font][font=宋体]这是一场对话[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you ask a question...
...[/font][font=宋体]你提出问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the speaker replies to that question.
...[/font][font=宋体]讲话者答复那个问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then you respond to that question.
[/font][font=宋体]然后你回应那个问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You ask a question, the speaker then responds to your question...
[/font][font=宋体]你问了一个问题,然后讲话者对你的问题做出回应[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then you respond to the speaker's response...
...[/font][font=宋体]然后你再对讲话者的回复做出回应[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and so keep this going...
...[/font][font=宋体]这样持续下去[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...till only the question remains and not the persons.
...[/font][font=宋体]直到只剩下问题,而没有了人的存在。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You have understood this?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白这点了吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Probably you have not gone into this question of dialogue.
[/font][font=宋体]可能你还没深入到对话这个问题中去。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I think it is important to understand this...
[/font][font=宋体]我想,了解这一点很重要[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because we are together...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为我们将一起[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...going to investigate these questions.
...[/font][font=宋体]审视这些问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And in the process of investigation...
[/font][font=宋体]在审视的过程中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you ask a question...
...[/font][font=宋体]你问了一个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the speaker then replies to that question...
...[/font][font=宋体]然后讲话者对那个问题做出答复[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and you respond to the reply...
...[/font][font=宋体]你再对那个答复做出回应[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and then I pick up and reply to that...
...[/font][font=宋体]然后我再接过来就此给出回复[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we go on this way - until only the question remains.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们就这样进行下去[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]直到只有问题留了下来。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]明白了吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the question then has tremendous vitality...
[/font][font=宋体]那么那问题就具有了巨大的生命力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is not tinged by any personal prejudice.
...[/font][font=宋体]它不被任何个人偏见所污染。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Have you understood this?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白了这点吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are going to do it, we will see it for ourselves.
[/font][font=宋体]我们将要这么做,我们将要自己看清楚。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder why we ask questions...
[/font][font=宋体]我想知道我们为什么要问问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and from whom do you expect a reply?
...[/font][font=宋体]你想从谁那儿得到一个答案?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is good to ask questions...
[/font][font=宋体]问问题很好[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the more questions, enquiry, the better.
...[/font][font=宋体]问题和疑问越多越好。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But we expect someone else to answer the question.
[/font][font=宋体]但是我们希望别人来回答这个问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The question is really a problem.
[/font][font=宋体]那问题实际上是个难题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]A problem, the root meaning of that word...
[/font][font=宋体]问题,词根的意思是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is something thrown at you.
...[/font][font=宋体]投向你的某个东西。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The etymological meaning of the word 'problem' means...
[/font][font=宋体]“问题”这个词在语源学上的意思是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...something hurled at you, thrown at you, it is a challenge.
...[/font][font=宋体]猛掷向你的东西,投向你的东西,是一个挑战。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And we expect others to solve our problems...
[/font][font=宋体]我们期望别人来解决我们的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...religious, economic, social...
...[/font][font=宋体]宗教上、经济上、社会上的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...all kinds of problems that human beings have.
...[/font][font=宋体]人类拥有的各种各样的问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And therefore it becomes one-sided.
[/font][font=宋体]那么这就变成了单方面的活动。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You ask the question and the speaker replies to it, if he is silly enough.
[/font][font=宋体]你问了一个问题,讲话者回答这个问题,如果他够蠢的话。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But if we together investigated the question...
[/font][font=宋体]但是如果我们一起来审视这个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the significance of the question...
...[/font][font=宋体]审视这问题的意义[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and not move away from the significance of the question...
...[/font][font=宋体]不偏离这问题的意义[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then the answer is in the question.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么答案就在问题中。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? Do you understand this?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?你明白这点吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Most of us put questions...
[/font][font=宋体]我们大部分人提出问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then wait for somebody to answer them.
...[/font][font=宋体]然后等着有人能回答。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what we are interested in is the answer...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,我们感兴趣的是答案[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and not in the question itself.
...[/font][font=宋体]而不是问题本身。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whereas the importance is in the question, not in the answer.
[/font][font=宋体]然而重要的是问题,而不是答案。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You will discover this presently.
[/font][font=宋体]你很快就会发现这点。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because this is a question put to the speaker...
[/font][font=宋体]因为这是一个对讲话者提出的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then the speaker responds to the question...
...[/font][font=宋体]然后讲话者对它进行回复[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then you pick up that response...
...[/font][font=宋体]然后你接过那个回复[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and reply to that response, and we keep this going...
...[/font][font=宋体]再对它做出回应,我们这样持续下去[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...until the question remains...
...[/font][font=宋体]直到只有问题保留下来[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and not anything else.
...[/font][font=宋体]其他的什么都没有。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And when the question becomes extraordinarily important...
[/font][font=宋体]当问题变得格外重要[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it has its own vitality, and therefore its own answer.
...[/font][font=宋体]它就有自己的生命力,因而就有自己的答案。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We will see it in a minute.
[/font][font=宋体]我们很快就会发现这点。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]1st QUESTION: I understand that all people have a similar consciousness...
[/font][font=宋体]第一个问题:我了解所有人都有一个相似的意识[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but it seems a vast jump to say...
...[/font][font=宋体]但是其中似乎要经过一个巨大的跨越才能说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that all people share the same consciousness.
...[/font][font=宋体]所有人都共有同样的意识。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Could we walk together slowly between these two points?
[/font][font=宋体]我们可以在这两点之间慢慢地一起往前走吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is a question that has been put.
[/font][font=宋体]这是提出来的一个问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is the significance of that question?
[/font][font=宋体]这个问题的意义是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The questioner says, I understand that all people...
[/font][font=宋体]问题说,我了解所有人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...have a similar consciousness.
...[/font][font=宋体]都有一个相似的意识。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What do we mean by understand?
[/font][font=宋体]我们说的“了解”是什么意思?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am not being facetious, hair splitting...
[/font][font=宋体]我不是在开玩笑,也不是吹毛求疵[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but I would like to know what you mean by understand.
...[/font][font=宋体]而是我想知道你说的“了解”是什么意思。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I understand the nuclear bomb will kill...
[/font][font=宋体]我了解核弹会一举杀死[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...ten million people in one blow.
...[/font][font=宋体]数以千万计的人。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I understand it.
[/font][font=宋体]我了解这点。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I have seen the experiment, not the ten million people blown up...
[/font][font=宋体]我看过试验,不是说一千万人被炸掉了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but have seen the mushroom cloud and all the rest of it.
...[/font][font=宋体]而是看到了蘑菇云和所有其他的一切。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is the understanding merely intellectual, verbal...
[/font][font=宋体]这种了解只是智识上的,语言上的呢[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or the understanding has tremendous significance, depth...
...[/font][font=宋体]还是这种了解具有巨大的意义和深度[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and not merely a verbal understanding.
...[/font][font=宋体]而不只是一种语言上的理解。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I have asked that question.
[/font][font=宋体]我问了这个问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then you reply to that question: you say, no...
[/font][font=宋体]然后你回答这个问题:你说,不是的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when I use the word 'understand'...
...[/font][font=宋体]当我用“了解”这个词[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I don't mean logically...
...[/font][font=宋体]我不是说仅仅在逻辑上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or merely verbally, but I understand it, the meaning...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者语言上了解,而是我了解其中的含义[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the significance of people having similar consciousness.
...[/font][font=宋体]人们拥有相似的意识这句话的意义。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]'But it seems a vast jump to say...
[/font][font=宋体]“但是,其中似乎要经过一个巨大的跨越才能说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that all people share the same consciousness.
...[/font][font=宋体]所有人都共有同样的意识。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Could we walk together slowly between these two points?'
[/font][font=宋体]在这两点之间,我们可以慢慢地一起走过去吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What do we mean by consciousness?
[/font][font=宋体]我们说的“意识”是什么意思?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You reply to me...
[/font][font=宋体]你回答我说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there are too many people, therefore I will reply for you.
...[/font][font=宋体]这里有太多人了,所以我会替你回答。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We mean by consciousness to be conscious of things...
[/font][font=宋体]我们说“意识”的意思是,注意到事物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...conscious of the trees round here, people round here...
...[/font][font=宋体]注意到这周围的树,这周围的人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in their various dresses, and hair, and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]穿着各式各样的衣服,有着各式各样的头发,等等。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am aware of it.
[/font][font=宋体]我注意到了这些。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is all right, sir. She is perfectly all right if she is quiet.
[/font][font=宋体]没关系,先生。如果她很安静,那她就非常好。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Will you be quiet?
[/font][font=宋体]你能安静下来吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What do we mean by being conscious? Being aware.
[/font][font=宋体]我们说“注意到”是什么意思?是觉察。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]In that awareness see what is happening around us...
[/font][font=宋体]在那觉察中,看到我们周围发生着什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the happening, or mere things as they are...
...[/font][font=宋体]发生着的事,或者它们只是一些东西[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and in that awareness...
...[/font][font=宋体]在那觉察中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there is a certain choice...
...[/font][font=宋体]有一种选择[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I like, I don't like.
...[/font][font=宋体]我喜欢,我不喜欢。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I like oak trees, I don't like palm trees...
[/font][font=宋体]我喜欢橡树,我不喜欢棕榈树[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or I wish it was something else.
...[/font][font=宋体]我希望它是个别的什么。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So in this awareness there is a sense of choice.
[/font][font=宋体]所以在这种觉察中有一种选择感。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now is there an awareness...
[/font][font=宋体]那么,是否有一种觉察[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is part of consciousness...
...[/font][font=宋体]作为意识的一部分[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in which there is no choice at all?
...[/font][font=宋体]其中根本没有选择?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the speaker puts that question...
[/font][font=宋体]所以讲话者提出这个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the speaker representing you...
...[/font][font=宋体]并且讲话者代表你[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...answers that question, which is...
...[/font][font=宋体]回答这个问题,即[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in our awareness there is always choice, choice being...
...[/font][font=宋体]在我们的觉察中,总是有选择,选择[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I like, I don't like, I wish it were different and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]我喜欢或者不喜欢什么,我希望它能变成别的,等等。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So where there is choice...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,只要有选择[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there is a conflict.
...[/font][font=宋体]就会有冲突。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? Do we see this?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?我们看到了这点吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Where there is a choice between this and that...
[/font][font=宋体]如果在此或彼之间有选择[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...this division breeds conflict.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么这种划分就滋生了冲突。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now, is there an awareness without choice?
[/font][font=宋体]那么,是否一种没有选择的觉察?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白我的问题吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]As you cannot reply, I am taking your part...
[/font][font=宋体]因为你不能回答,我就代你做答了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it seems it is very difficult to be aware without choice.
...[/font][font=宋体]没有选择的觉察,看起来好像很困难。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the reply to that is, why?
[/font][font=宋体]就此的回应是,为什么呢?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why is it difficult?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么很困难?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is the word 'difficult' preventing, throwing a barrier?
[/font][font=宋体]“困难”这个词不正是抛出了屏障产生了障碍吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The word 'difficult'.
[/font][font=宋体]“困难”这个词。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When I use the word 'impossible'...
[/font][font=宋体]如果我用“不可能”这个词[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...'difficult', 'I am a failure'...
...[/font][font=宋体]“很困难”,“我是个失败者”[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...those words act as a barrier.
...[/font][font=宋体]这些词就变成了障碍。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So in using the word 'difficult' you are already making it difficult.
[/font][font=宋体]所以用“困难”这个词的话,你就已经把它变得困难了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So is it possible to be aware, conscious...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,是否可能觉察,注意到[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...without any choice, just to observe?
...[/font][font=宋体]但没有任何选择而只是观察?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the reply to that, 'I will try'.
[/font][font=宋体]然后对它的回答是,“我会努力试试。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And to that reply the speaker says, 'Don't try'.
[/font][font=宋体]对于这个回答,讲话者说,“不要努力”。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The moment you try you are making an effort.
[/font][font=宋体]你试图尝试的那一刻,你就是在做出努力。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And when you make an effort you don't understand anything.
[/font][font=宋体]当你做出努力地时候,你什么事情都明白不了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whereas if you don't make effort...
[/font][font=宋体]但是如果你不做出努力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but just see, perceive the actual.
...[/font][font=宋体]而只是看着,觉察事实。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And then you may say, sorry, I don't understand it.
[/font][font=宋体]然后你可能会说,对不起,我不明白。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So I say, let's go into it further.
[/font][font=宋体]然后我说,让我们再深入一点。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am having fun with this!
[/font][font=宋体]我觉得这个很有趣![/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I haven't read these questions before.
[/font][font=宋体]我以前没碰到过这些问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I like to look at them first when I am speaking.
[/font][font=宋体]在我讲话的时候我想先看看这些问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]'But it is a vast jump to say...
[/font][font=宋体]“但是要经过一个巨大的跨越才能说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that all people share the same consciousness.'
...[/font][font=宋体]所有人共有相同的意识。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is that so or not?
[/font][font=宋体]是这样吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That all people throughout the world...
[/font][font=宋体]世界上所有的人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...share the same consciousness, is that so?
...[/font][font=宋体]共有同样的意识,是这样的吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you say, no, it is not the same...
[/font][font=宋体]你说,不,不是同样的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...each one of us is different...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们每个人都是不同的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...each one of us has his own peculiarities...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们每个人都有他自己的独特性[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...his own idiosyncrasies...
...[/font][font=宋体]他自己的气质[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...his different environment...
...[/font][font=宋体]他与众不同的环境[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...different religious upbringing...
...[/font][font=宋体]不同的宗教教养[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or non-religious upbringing...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者非宗教教养[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...educated in different ways...
...[/font][font=宋体]不同的受教育方式[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...so we do not say, all the same consciousness, you reply.
...[/font][font=宋体]所以我们不说意识都是相同的,你如此回答。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the speaker says, it is not like that...
[/font][font=宋体]于是讲话者说,不是这样的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...let's look into it, don't assert.
...[/font][font=宋体]让我们深入进去,先不要断言。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Don't take a position, then it becomes a battle.
[/font][font=宋体]不要先站好立场,否则那就变成争斗了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But if you are pliable, move, enquire...
[/font][font=宋体]但是如果你是柔韧的,在动着,探询着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then we are together in this.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么我们就一起在这里了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So I say, now let's examine this...
[/font][font=宋体]所以我说,现在让我们来检视这点[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...very closely, without any bias...
...[/font][font=宋体]非常近地,不带任何偏见的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...taking up any position, that I believe in this...
...[/font][font=宋体]采取任何立场,比如我相信这个[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then you can't discuss, you can't explore.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么你就不能讨论了,你就不能探索了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So let's examine this.
[/font][font=宋体]所以让我们来检视这点。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You say, what do you mean examine, explore?
[/font][font=宋体]你说,“你说的检视、探索是什么意思?”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Who is exploring?
[/font][font=宋体]谁在探索?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Your own attention, I am not using the word 'interest'.
[/font][font=宋体]你自己的注意力,我没用“兴趣”这个词。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now we must go into the question of interest and attention.
[/font][font=宋体]现在我们必须深入兴趣和注意力的问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I hope you are coming into this game.
[/font][font=宋体]我希望你加入这场游戏。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Most educators are concerned with interest...
[/font][font=宋体]大多数教育者关注的是兴趣[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to awaken the interest of children, students...
...[/font][font=宋体]来唤起孩子们、学生们的兴趣[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...be interested in mathematics...
...[/font][font=宋体]对数学感兴趣[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if you are not interested in mathematics be interested in history.
...[/font][font=宋体]如果你对数学不感兴趣,而对历史感兴趣的话。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The teacher is concerned...
[/font][font=宋体]老师关心的是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with awakening the interest in the student.
...[/font][font=宋体]唤起学生的兴趣。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? Isn't that a fact?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?这不是事实吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I want to play the violin.
[/font][font=宋体]我想拉小提琴。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Don't play the violin, it's not worthwhile...
[/font][font=宋体]别拉小提琴,那没什么价值[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because you can't earn a good livelihood...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为你无法以此很好地谋生[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but get interested in something else. And so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]去对别的事情感兴趣吧。等等。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now where there is interest there is always...
[/font][font=宋体]哪里有兴趣,哪里就总是有[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a contradictory process going on within oneself.
...[/font][font=宋体]自我矛盾的过程发生。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Clear? Oh, no.
[/font][font=宋体]清楚了吗?哦,没有。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]All right, I'll explain again.
[/font][font=宋体]好吧,我再解释一次。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am interested in climbing a mountain.
[/font][font=宋体]我对爬山感兴趣。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And my teacher says, don't be interested in that...
[/font][font=宋体]而我的老师说,“别对那个感兴趣[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...be interested in something much more serious.
...[/font][font=宋体]要对更严肃的事情感兴趣”。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is a contradiction immediately.
[/font][font=宋体]矛盾立刻就产生了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am interested in wanting to climb the mountain...
[/font][font=宋体]我有兴趣想去爬山[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the educator says, don't climb the mountain...
...[/font][font=宋体]教育者说,别爬山[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...be interested in what I am saying.
...[/font][font=宋体]要对我说的东西感兴趣。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So in me there is already a contradiction taking place...
[/font][font=宋体]所以在我身上,已经有矛盾发生了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...wanting to do something else...
...[/font][font=宋体]想做别的事[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I have been forced to do something else.
...[/font][font=宋体]可是被强迫去做了另外一件事。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? So don't use the word 'interest' at all.
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?所以绝不要用“兴趣”这个词。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then what word would you use, you ask me.
[/font][font=宋体]“那么你要用哪个词,”你这么问我。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I say, find out what is the nature of attention.
[/font][font=宋体]我说,“去发现注意力的本质”。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Are you all so puzzled by all this?
[/font][font=宋体]你们是不是都为此感到迷惑?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is the nature of attention?
[/font][font=宋体]注意力的本质是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The student is very interested in watching something very closely.
[/font][font=宋体]学生总是对近距离地观察一样东西很感兴趣。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And I want him to be interested in history, but he is watching...
[/font][font=宋体]我希望他对历史感兴趣,但是他在观察[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the frog or the lizard, or the bird, out of the window.
...[/font][font=宋体]青蛙或者蜥蜴,或者窗外的鸟。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]He is paying much more attention to that...
[/font][font=宋体]他在那上面花的注意力远远超过了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...than listening to my demand of history.
...[/font][font=宋体]听从我对他在历史上的要求。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So I would encourage him, or help him to watch much more carefully.
[/font][font=宋体]所以我会鼓励他,或者帮助他更仔细地观察。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Much more carefully...
[/font][font=宋体]更加仔细地观察[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...so that his whole attention is given to his watching.
...[/font][font=宋体]这样他的整个注意力都集中在了观察上。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When he does that then I can see and demand...
[/font][font=宋体]当他这么做的时候,我会看到并且要求[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that he pay attention to everything slowly.
...[/font][font=宋体]他慢慢地对一切都关注。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Learn to pay attention, not interest. You've got it?
[/font][font=宋体]学着全神贯注,而不是去关心兴趣。你听懂了吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So, let's examine, or explore...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,让我们来检验,或者探索[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that we all share the same consciousness.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们共有相同的意识。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Wherever we live...
[/font][font=宋体]不管我们住在哪[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...whether in the Far East, or in the Middle East, or here...
...[/font][font=宋体]住在远东,或者中东,或者这里[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...human beings go through terrible times.
...[/font][font=宋体]人类都经历了恐怖的时期。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is great poverty...
[/font][font=宋体]有巨大的贫穷[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in Africa and India, and parts of Asia.
...[/font][font=宋体]非洲、印度和亚洲的一部分都有。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is great suffering.
[/font][font=宋体]有巨大的苦难。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]People are anxious all over the world.
[/font][font=宋体]全世界的人们都焦虑不安。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]People are afraid all over the world.
[/font][font=宋体]全世界的人们都恐惧担忧。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And they all want security...
[/font][font=宋体]他们都想要安全[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...both physical as well as psychological.
...[/font][font=宋体]身体上以及心理上的安全。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? This is a fact.
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?这是事实。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the fact is common to all of us. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]所以对我们所有人来说,这是共同的事实。对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You suffer...
[/font][font=宋体]你受苦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the Indian in India suffers...
...[/font][font=宋体]在印度的印度人也受苦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the Russian suffers.
...[/font][font=宋体]俄罗斯人也受苦。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So human beings, looking at all...
[/font][font=宋体]所以人类,看看所有[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the inhabitants of the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]世界上的居民[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...go through this extraordinary phenomenon. Right?
...[/font][font=宋体]都经历着这非同寻常的苦难。对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...All human beings have their own idiosyncrasies...
...[/font][font=宋体]所有人类都有他们自己的习性[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...their own way of doing things...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们自己做事情的方式[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...their peculiar habits, their fears...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们特定的习惯,他们的恐惧[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...their gods,, their beliefs...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们的神祗,他们的信念[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...right through the world this is a common factor.
...[/font][font=宋体]走遍整个世界,这是一个普遍的事实。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is so. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]是这样的。对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The speaker says so.
[/font][font=宋体]讲话者是这么说的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you say, no, it is not like that.
[/font][font=宋体]而你说,“不,不是这样的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am different from my neighbour.
[/font][font=宋体]我和我邻居不一样。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The speaker then says, are you really?
[/font][font=宋体]然后讲话者说,“你真的不一样吗?”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You may have a bigger car...
[/font][font=宋体]你可能有辆更大的车[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a wider garden, beautifully kept...
...[/font][font=宋体]更大的花园,收拾得很漂亮[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you work at that garden...
...[/font][font=宋体]你在那花园里劳作[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you may have a bigger house or a smaller house...
...[/font][font=宋体]你可能有栋更大的或者小一些的房子[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But the superficial difference...
[/font][font=宋体]但是表面上的不同[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...both biologically and physically...
...[/font][font=宋体]包括生理上和身体上的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is natural, it is there, it is a fact: you are tall...
...[/font][font=宋体]是很自然的,确实存在,这是事实:你个子高[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...another is short...
...[/font][font=宋体]另一个人矮[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...one is very, very clever...
...[/font][font=宋体]一个人非常非常聪明[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the other is not, and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]另一个人不聪明,等等。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But go beyond that or go below that...
[/font][font=宋体]而要进入超越那些表层或者潜藏于其下的那个领域[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is in the psychological world.
...[/font][font=宋体]是那心理世界。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]In the psychological world...
[/font][font=宋体]在这心理世界中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we all share the same sorrow...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们都共有同样的悲伤[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...sorrow is common to all of us.
...[/font][font=宋体]悲伤对我们所有人来说是相同的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You may have pleasure in one way but it is still pleasure.
[/font][font=宋体]你有某种形式的欢愉但那不过还是欢愉罢了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is still fear.
[/font][font=宋体]那还是恐惧。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You may be afraid of the dark...
[/font][font=宋体]你可能害怕黑暗[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and another may be afraid of some other thing.
...[/font][font=宋体]另一个人可能害怕别的东西。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But fear is common to all of us. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]但恐惧是我们所有人共有的。对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we all share the same consciousness.
[/font][font=宋体]所以说,我们都共有相同的意识。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you say to that, it sounds very logical, but is it true?
[/font][font=宋体]然后你说,“这听起来符合逻辑,但这是真的吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is it a fact, or are you making something to be a fact...
[/font][font=宋体]这是个事实,还是只是你捏造的事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because you want to bring about...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为你想带来[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a non-individual existence which is unreal?
...[/font][font=宋体]一种非个体的不真实存在?”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So I say, listen to what I am saying...
[/font][font=宋体]于是我说,“请听我说的话[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...are you an individual at all?
...[/font][font=宋体]你到底是不是一个个体?”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Factually, are you?
[/font][font=宋体]事实上,你是吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because you have a different complexion, different upbringing...
[/font][font=宋体]因为你有不一样的肤色,不一样的成长背景[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you are a Catholic, I am a Protestant...
...[/font][font=宋体]你的是个天主教徒,我是个新教徒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you are a Buddhist, I am a Hindu and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]你是个佛教徒,我是个印度教徒,等等。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Externally you are different, obviously.
[/font][font=宋体]外在地看,你确实不同,这很明显。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That is a fact.
[/font][font=宋体]这是个事实。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But inwardly, are you different?
[/font][font=宋体]但是内在地,你是不同的吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please.
[/font][font=宋体]请想一想。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You say, yes, I am quite different.
[/font][font=宋体]你说,“是的,我很不一样。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What makes you say that you are different?
[/font][font=宋体]是什么让你说你是不同的?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is it because you think you are different?
[/font][font=宋体]是因为你觉得自己不同吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or is it a fact that you are different? You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]还是事实上你真的与众不同?你明白吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Thinking is one thing, and the fact is another.
[/font][font=宋体]思考是一回事,事实是另一回事。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Thinking about a fact is something totally different from the fact.
[/font][font=宋体]思考一个事实,完全不同于那个事实本身。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The fact is are you different?
[/font][font=宋体]事实上,你是不同的吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not that you think you are different.
[/font][font=宋体]不是你以为自己不同。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Psychologically, inwardly?
[/font][font=宋体]心理上,内在地?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We cheat, we lie, we want success, we want money.
[/font][font=宋体]我们欺骗,我们撒谎,我们想要成功,想要金钱。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is a common thing to all human beings. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]这对于所有人类来说是共同的事情。对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we are saying there is no individual consciousness...
[/font][font=宋体]所以我们说没有个体意识[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is not your consciousness.
...[/font][font=宋体]那不是你的意识。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you say, I don't believe it.
[/font][font=宋体]然后你说,“我不信。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It's your invention.
[/font][font=宋体]那是你发明的。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I say, look, when you call yourself an individual...
[/font][font=宋体]我说,“看,当你把自己称为一个个体[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what is the meaning of that word 'individual', the meaning?
...[/font][font=宋体]‘个体’这个词的意思是什么?它的含义?”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The root meaning of that word, it means indivisible.
[/font][font=宋体]这个词的词根意思是,不可分割的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Are you indivisible or fragmented?
[/font][font=宋体]你是不可分割的还是支离破碎的?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you are fragmented, as you are, you are not an individual.
[/font][font=宋体]如果你是支离破碎的,你也正是如此,那么你就不是一个个体。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Don't use that word.
[/font][font=宋体]不要用这个词。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are a fragmented human being...
[/font][font=宋体]你是个支离破碎的人类[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...like all other fragmented human beings.
...[/font][font=宋体]就像其他所有支离破碎的人类一样。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Individual means unique.
[/font][font=宋体]个体意味着独一无二。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are not.
[/font][font=宋体]你不是。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We would like to be unique, we think we are unique...
[/font][font=宋体]我们想变得独特,我们认为我们是独特的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because we are clever, we are this...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为我们聪明,我们是这样的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you know, which is a form of vanity.
...[/font][font=宋体]你知道,这是一种虚荣的形式。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So when you examine it very closely, unbiased...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,当你很近地不带偏见地检视它时[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...without any sense of egotism in this...
...[/font][font=宋体]其中不带任何自我中心感[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you find we are humanity.
...[/font][font=宋体]你会发现我们是整个人类。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We don't share the same consciousness, we are humanity.
[/font][font=宋体]我们不共有同样的意识,我们是整个人类。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if you understand this?
[/font][font=宋体]我想知道你是否明白了这点。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you hear that statement...
[/font][font=宋体]当你听到这个说法[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...either you accept it as an idea...
...[/font][font=宋体]你要么作为一个观点接受它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or hearing that statement you make an abstraction of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]要么听到这个说法你把它抽象化[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and say, it is a good ideal.
...[/font][font=宋体]然后说,这是个不错的理想。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you say, you are avoiding the fact...
[/font][font=宋体]你说,你是在逃避事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when you make an ideal of the fact.
...[/font][font=宋体]如果你把这个事实当成了理想的话。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So please look at the fact...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,请看着这个事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that every human being in the world goes through...
..[/font][font=宋体]世界上的每个人经历着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...all kinds of problems, misery, unhappiness...
...[/font][font=宋体]各种各样的问题,苦难,不幸[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and if he is a clever man and wants to earn money...
...[/font][font=宋体]如果他是个聪明人,想要挣钱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...he does all kinds of crooked things, you know, the whole game.
...[/font][font=宋体]他做各种各样不正当的事情,你知道的,这整个游戏。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And we all do the same thing in a different way...
[/font][font=宋体]我们都在以不同的方式做着同样的事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but the motive, the urge is the same.
...[/font][font=宋体]其中的动机、渴望是相同的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you reply to all that, yes, I follow it all logically...
[/font][font=宋体]对于所有这些,你回答道,“是的,我从逻辑上跟上了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but I can't feel...
...[/font][font=宋体]但是我感觉不到[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the depth of your statement that we are humanity...
...[/font][font=宋体]你的说法的深度,即我们是整个人类[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the feeling of it.
...[/font][font=宋体]感觉不到。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then the speaker says, why, why don't we feel...
[/font][font=宋体]然后讲话者说,“为什么,为什么我们感觉不到[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...this tremendous sense of wholeness in humanity?
...[/font][font=宋体]这种巨大的人类一体感?”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not that we share the earth...
[/font][font=宋体]不是因为我们共有一个地球[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the earth is our mother...
...[/font][font=宋体]地球是我们的母亲[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and we are all born, etc., etc.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们都诞生于世间,等等,等等。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I know that's the latest fashion...
[/font][font=宋体]我知道这是最新的时尚[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...another fad in this country.
...[/font][font=宋体]这个国家的另一种流行。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you realise this, we move from fad to fad...
[/font][font=宋体]你认识到没有,我们从一种流行走向另一种流行[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the latest box we fall into.
...[/font][font=宋体]然后坠入最新的时尚之中。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So, if one can look at the fact...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,如果一个人能看着这事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and not make an idea of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]不把它概念化[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or an abstraction of it as an ideal...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者把它抽象为一种理想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but remain with the fact...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是与这事实共处[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that we are really the whole of humanity...
[/font][font=宋体]即我们真的是整个人类[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...psychologically...
...[/font][font=宋体]心理层面上确实如此[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then that feeling when you remain with the fact...
...[/font][font=宋体]那么,与这事实共处的感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it gives a sense of tremendous energy...
...[/font][font=宋体]就会给你一种巨大的能量感[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and there is no separation in this.
...[/font][font=宋体]其中没有分裂。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Let's move to the next question.
[/font][font=宋体]让我们进入下一个问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]2nd QUESTION: Have you designated a special teacher...
[/font][font=宋体]第二个问题:你是否指定过一个特殊的老师[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or a person, to carry on your Teachings after you have gone?
...[/font][font=宋体]或者一个人,在你过世后来传承你的教诲?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Someone is claiming this position.
[/font][font=宋体]有人宣称自己获得了这个身份。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Have you designated a special teacher or person...
[/font][font=宋体]你是否指定过一个特殊的老师或者人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to carry on your Teachings after you have gone?
...[/font][font=宋体]在你过世后来传承你的教诲?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Where?!
[/font][font=宋体]哪呢?![/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Someone is claiming this position.
[/font][font=宋体]有人宣称自己获得了这个身份。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder why he is claiming this position.
[/font][font=宋体]我想知道他为什么宣称自己获得了这个身份。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I know this is happening.
[/font][font=宋体]我知道这种事情正在发生。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I know the various people who are doing this kind of rubbish...
[/font][font=宋体]我知道有各式各样的人在做这种垃圾行为[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but what are they claiming?
...[/font][font=宋体]但是他宣称获得的是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why do they want to follow somebody, after somebody?
[/font][font=宋体]他们为什么想要追随某人,跟随某人?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Suppose - not suppose - K is going to die.
[/font][font=宋体]假设[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]不是假设[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]克要死了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The speaker is going to die.
[/font][font=宋体]讲话者要死了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That's certain, as all of us are going to die.
[/font][font=宋体]这是肯定的,因为我们所有人都要死。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That is one absolute, irrevocable fact...
[/font][font=宋体]这是一个绝对的,不可反转的事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...whether you like it or not.
...[/font][font=宋体]不管你喜不喜欢。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Fortunately, or unfortunately, he has said many things...
[/font][font=宋体]幸运的是,或者不幸的是,他说过很多东西[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...written some books, and become somewhat...
...[/font][font=宋体]写了些书,变得有些[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...may I use the word 'notoriety'...
...[/font][font=宋体]如果我可以用“臭名昭著”这个词[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...notorious, not as a criminal...
...[/font][font=宋体]臭名昭著,不是作为一个罪犯[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but some kind of freak, or religious teacher, another freak...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是某种怪物,或者宗教导师,另一种怪物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or some kind of biological exception.
...[/font][font=宋体]或者某种生物学上的例外。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And because of that, a sense of reputation in the world...
[/font][font=宋体]因此,在这个世界上拥有了某种名誉感[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is so ugly...
...[/font][font=宋体]这很丑陋[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and it has no meaning, reputation...
...[/font][font=宋体]而且没有意义,名誉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...someone wants, or feels, or thinks himself...
...[/font][font=宋体]有人想要,或者感觉,或者认为自己[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that he is going to carry on K's work.
...[/font][font=宋体]将继续克的工作。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Probably it is very profitable...
[/font][font=宋体]可能这非常有利可图[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...both financially...
...[/font][font=宋体]不仅是财政上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and you can say, well, I can collect a lot of silly people.
...[/font][font=宋体]而且你可以说,“好,我可以聚集一堆愚蠢的人。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is happening in the world.
[/font][font=宋体]世界上正发生着这种事。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]In the church there is the apostolic succession...
[/font][font=宋体]在教会里有宗徒传承[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you know, handed down.
...[/font][font=宋体]你知道的,传位下去。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]They have it too in India, in a different way.
[/font][font=宋体]这种事情他们在印度也有,方式不同而已。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we all love authority.
[/font][font=宋体]所以说我们都爱权威。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We all want to follow someone who says, I know.
[/font][font=宋体]我们都想跟随某个说“我知道”的人。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And we are all so gullible.
[/font][font=宋体]我们都这么容易上当受骗。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We never say, look, I just want to live...
[/font][font=宋体]我们从不说,“看,我只是想生活[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I want to find out what you say, what you are...
...[/font][font=宋体]我想去发现你说的话,你是怎样的人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not what you represent, or your symbol, and all the rest of it.
...[/font][font=宋体]不是你代表谁,或者你的象征以及等等其他的。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What you are.
[/font][font=宋体]你是怎样的人。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you begin to doubt, question, what you are.
[/font][font=宋体]你开始质疑,询问“你是怎样的人”。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you soon discover that it is nothing very much.
[/font][font=宋体]你很快就会发现没什么大不了的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So, K is saying, the speaker is saying...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,克说,讲话者在说,[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...he has designated no one...
...[/font][font=宋体]他没有指定任何人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...no teacher, or anyone to represent...
...[/font][font=宋体]任何导师,或者任何人作为代表[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...after he has gone to...
...[/font][font=宋体]在他去了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]England.
...[/font][font=宋体]英国之后,[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...where he is going next week.
...[/font][font=宋体]他下周要去那里。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is all rather silly, isn't it?
[/font][font=宋体]这相当愚蠢,是不是?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]3rd QUESTION: What do you mean by observing thought...
[/font][font=宋体]第三个问题:深入到思想的根源[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...down to its very roots?
...[/font][font=宋体]去观察思想,你这么说是什么意思?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I watch my thoughts...
[/font][font=宋体]我看着我的思想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but each one leads to another in an endless chain.
...[/font][font=宋体]但是每个思想都引起另一个思想,循环往复永无停歇。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is the factor that ends this?
[/font][font=宋体]终止这些的因素是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What actually brings change?
[/font][font=宋体]什么带来真正的改变?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What do you mean by observing thought down to its very roots?
[/font][font=宋体]你说深入到思想的根源去观察它,这是什么意思?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I watch my thoughts but each one leads to another in an endless chain.
[/font][font=宋体]我看着我的思想,但是每个思想都引起另一个思想,循环往复永无停歇。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is the factor that ends this?
[/font][font=宋体]终止这些的因素是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What actually brings change?
[/font][font=宋体]什么带来真正的改变?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We will answer this question.
[/font][font=宋体]我们将回答这个问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We will stop this back and forth.
[/font][font=宋体]我们将停止这循环往复。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]One of the questions is...
[/font][font=宋体]其中一个问题是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...can thought be aware of itself?
...[/font][font=宋体]思想能觉察它自己吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]One is thinking about...
[/font][font=宋体]你在考虑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what you will do when you get home.
...[/font][font=宋体]你回家以后要做些什么。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are thinking what you will do when you get back.
[/font][font=宋体]你在考虑你回去以后要做些什么。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you want to find out...
[/font][font=宋体]你想要发现[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what is the quality of that thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想的特质是什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and can that thought be aware of itself?
...[/font][font=宋体]思想能否觉察自己?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白我的问题吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am thinking of my next meal.
[/font][font=宋体]我在考虑我的下一顿饭。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now can thought be aware that it is thinking of the next meal?
[/font][font=宋体]那么思想能够发现自己正在想下一顿饭吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or is there an observer who says...
[/font][font=宋体]还是有一个观察者说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I am thinking about my next meal?
...[/font][font=宋体]我在考虑我的下一顿饭?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is the observer different from the observed?
[/font][font=宋体]观察者是不同于被观察者的吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is he different?
[/font][font=宋体]是不同的吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or both are thought?
[/font][font=宋体]还是都是思想?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Isn't it?
[/font][font=宋体]不是吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The observer is thought...
[/font][font=宋体]观察者是思想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and that which he is observing as thought is still thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]他当做思想来观察的东西还是思想。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the observer is thought.
[/font][font=宋体]所以说观察者就是思想。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The observer is all the accumulated memories of the past.
[/font][font=宋体]观察者是过去积累起来的所有记忆。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the observer then says...
[/font][font=宋体]然后观察者说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I am going to watch my thinking.
...[/font][font=宋体]我要观察我的思想。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am going to watch what I think.
[/font][font=宋体]我要观察我在想什么。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I want to find out the root of my thinking.
[/font][font=宋体]我想要找出我思想的根源。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The observer is saying this.
[/font][font=宋体]观察者在这么说。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But the observer is also thought.
[/font][font=宋体]但是观察者也是思想。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So two thoughts, one thought is watching the other thought.
[/font][font=宋体]所以,两个思想,一个思想在观察另一个思想。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the common factor between the two is thought.
[/font][font=宋体]所以这两者之间共同的因素是思想。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And what is the root of thought?
[/font][font=宋体]而思想的根源是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That is the question.
[/font][font=宋体]这是个问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is the root of it?
[/font][font=宋体]它的根源是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is the root of all our thinking...
[/font][font=宋体]我们所有思想的根源是什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because we all think.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为我们都思考。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The greatest scholar, the great scientists...
[/font][font=宋体]最伟大的学者,最伟大的科学家[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the most ignoramus, the most primitive person thinks.
...[/font][font=宋体]最无知的人,最原始的人都思考。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what is the root of thinking?
[/font][font=宋体]那么思想的根源是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And is it possible to find the root of thinking...
[/font][font=宋体]是否可能发现思想的根源[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and is it also possible not to think at all?
...[/font][font=宋体]而且是否可能根本就不思考?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are going to go into all that.
[/font][font=宋体]我们将深入所有这些问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If I ask you a question, what is thinking, what is your reply?
[/font][font=宋体]如果我问你一个问题,思想是什么,你怎么回答?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Probably you would say, I have never thought about it...
[/font][font=宋体]可能你会说,“我从没想过这个[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I have never gone into this question.
...[/font][font=宋体]我从没深入过这个问题。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And I say, why not...
[/font][font=宋体]然后我说,为什么不呢?[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because all your life is based on thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为你所有的生活都是基于思想啊[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...business, everything you do is based on thought?
...[/font][font=宋体]事业,你所做的每一件事都基于思想。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why aren't you interested in finding out what is thinking?
[/font][font=宋体]你为什么对发现思想是什么不感兴趣呢?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What's wrong with you?
[/font][font=宋体]你出了什么问题?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You explore so many things...
[/font][font=宋体]你探索那么多东西[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you go under the sea, you go in the air...
...[/font][font=宋体]你深入海底,你进入高空[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you do all kinds of things, exploring...
...[/font][font=宋体]你做各种各样的事,探索着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but you have never given...
...[/font][font=宋体]但是你从未将[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...your energy or your urge...
...[/font][font=宋体]你的能量或者你的渴望[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to find out what is thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]用于发现思想是什么。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you say, sorry, I have never done it.
[/font][font=宋体]然后你说,“对不起,我从未做过这件事。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And so we say: look...
[/font][font=宋体]于是我们说:看着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...carefully observe what thought is first...
...[/font][font=宋体]先仔细地观察思想是什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what it does...
...[/font][font=宋体]它在做什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what it has done in the technological world...
...[/font][font=宋体]它在技术世界做了些什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and also what it is doing psychologically...
...[/font][font=宋体]又在心理领域做着些什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what it is doing in its relationship to others.
...[/font][font=宋体]它在和别人的关系中做了什么。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This whole movement, the technological world...
[/font][font=宋体]这整个运动,在技术世界进行着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what is happening psychologically, inwardly...
...[/font][font=宋体]在心理层面,内在地发生着什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and what is happening in your relationship through thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]通过思想你的关系发生着什么。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This movement of thought, from the extreme technological world...
[/font][font=宋体]这个思想的运动,从纯粹的技术世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to the personal psychological world, and the relationship...
...[/font][font=宋体]到个人心理世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...between the psychological world and the next person.
...[/font][font=宋体]到他的心理世界和另一个人之间的关系。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It's the same movement, thought.
[/font][font=宋体]都是同样的运动,思想。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now what does it do in the relationship between you and another?
[/font][font=宋体]那么,在你和别人之间的关系中,它的作用是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? What does it do?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?它做什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You say, I don't know, because I have never thought about it.
[/font][font=宋体]你说,“我不知道,因为我从来没想过。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Even if I thought about it I don't know how to go into it.
[/font][font=宋体]即使我想过,我也不知道该怎么深入。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you leave it like that, hoping somebody will come along...
[/font][font=宋体]然后你把它就这么扔在一边,希望有人会走过来[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and explain the whole thing.
...[/font][font=宋体]解释这整件事情。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Which means that you are not...
[/font][font=宋体]这意味着你并不[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...forgive me for pointing out...
...[/font][font=宋体]请原谅我指出来[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you are not really concerned.
...[/font][font=宋体]你并不真的在意。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you are concerned you work at it.
[/font][font=宋体]如果你在意,你会花工夫的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are concerned to earn a livelihood...
[/font][font=宋体]你关心的是赚钱谋生[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and you jolly well work at it.
...[/font][font=宋体]你的确在那上面花很多工夫。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But here you say, sorry, I am used to this, or my parents...
[/font][font=宋体]但是这里你说,“对不起,我习惯了这些,或者我的父母[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...past generation upon generation, are used to thinking...
...[/font][font=宋体]一代代的祖先,都习惯于思考[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...they have never gone into this question at all.
...[/font][font=宋体]他们根本从来没有深入过这个问题。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And so you brush it aside and go on.
[/font][font=宋体]所以你就把它扫在一边,继续原来的生活。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whereas if you begin to apply, look, perceive...
[/font][font=宋体]但是,如果你开始致力于看,觉察[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...committed to find out...
...[/font][font=宋体]致力于发现[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you must find out...
...[/font][font=宋体]你必然会发现[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then you say...
...[/font][font=宋体]然后你说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...why is it that I can answer certain things very quickly...
...[/font][font=宋体]“为什么我能很快地回答某些问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...instantly...
...[/font][font=宋体]立刻回答[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...other things I take time.
...[/font][font=宋体]而另一些问题我就得慢慢来。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So an instant response...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,立刻回答,或者[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...taking time before response...
...[/font][font=宋体]在回答之前要花时间[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and ultimately saying, I really don't know, I don't know.
...[/font][font=宋体]最后说,“我真的不知道,我不知道。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]These are our states of thinking...
[/font][font=宋体]这些就是我们思想的状态[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...instant reply, taking time...
...[/font][font=宋体]立刻回答,或者慢慢来[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to respond to a question...
...[/font][font=宋体]回应一个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...thinking, looking, watching, asking...
...[/font][font=宋体]思考,查看,观察,询问[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...reading about it and then say, this is the answer.
...[/font][font=宋体]阅读,然后说,这就是答案。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the other is to say, I really don't know.
[/font][font=宋体]而另一个说,我真的不知道。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So these are the states we go through.
[/font][font=宋体]所以这是我们经历的状态。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now when you answer quickly...
[/font][font=宋体]那么,当你回答的很快[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you are familiar with it, it's everyday.
...[/font][font=宋体]这种情况你很熟悉,每天都在发生。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You know the way to your home, you know the way...
[/font][font=宋体]你知道回家的路,你知道该如何[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to turn on the heater and so on, wash the dishes.
...[/font][font=宋体]打开加热器等等,如何洗盘子。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But if one asks you something much more complex you take time.
[/font][font=宋体]但是如果有人问你更复杂的事情,你就得花时间慢慢来。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And if there is a question...
[/font][font=宋体]如果有个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...like is there eternity, you say, I don't know.
...[/font][font=宋体]比如是不是有永恒,你会说,“我不知道”。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you say, 'I don't know'...
[/font][font=宋体]当你说“我不知道”的时候[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...either you are waiting for somebody to tell you...
...[/font][font=宋体]要么你在等别人告诉你[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or you don't accept anything from anybody...
...[/font][font=宋体]要么你不接受任何人说的任何事[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but you say, I don't know. Right?
...[/font][font=宋体]但是你说,“我不知道”。对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So let's examine what is the root of thinking.
[/font][font=宋体]所以让我们来检视思想的根源是什么。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please, you must work at this...
[/font][font=宋体]请你们务必致力于此[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...otherwise there is no fun in this...
...[/font][font=宋体]否则这没什么好玩的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...just to listen and say, yes, this is so, and walk off.
...[/font][font=宋体]只是听了然后说,“是的,就是这样”,然后走掉。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But to apply, find out, go into it...
[/font][font=宋体]而是要致力于,去发现,去深入[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then it becomes extraordinarily interesting.
...[/font][font=宋体]于是这变得极其有趣。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Thought is surely memory...
[/font][font=宋体]思想确实是记忆[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or rather the response of memory.
...[/font][font=宋体]或者是记忆的反应。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If there was no memory you can't think.
[/font][font=宋体]如果没有记忆,你就不能思考。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That's obvious.
[/font][font=宋体]这很明显。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you are in a state of amnesia you can't think.
[/font][font=宋体]如果你处于失忆症状态,你就不能思考。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what is memory?
[/font][font=宋体]那么记忆是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please, you are working, just don't listen...
[/font][font=宋体]请注意,你是在工作,不要只是听[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you are working to find out.
...[/font][font=宋体]你是在努力发现。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is memory?
[/font][font=宋体]记忆是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]One is driving a car, going along...
[/font][font=宋体]你在开车,往前开[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and you look in another direction...
...[/font][font=宋体]可你往别的方向看[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and you have an accident - I hope not you, I am.
...[/font][font=宋体]然后就出了意外[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]我希望不是你,是我。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am having an accident.
[/font][font=宋体]我发生了意外。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And that accident causes pain and all the rest of it.
[/font][font=宋体]那场意外导致了痛苦以及其他所有一切。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So that accident has been recorded in the brain...
[/font][font=宋体]于是那场意外就被记录在了脑子里[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as memory of that incident.
...[/font][font=宋体]成为那场意外的记忆。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So that accident has brought certain knowledge.
[/font][font=宋体]所以那场意外带来了某种知识。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And that accident has been an experience.
[/font][font=宋体]那场意外成为一次经验。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So that accident is an experience...
[/font][font=宋体]那场意外是一次经验[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which has brought knowledge...
...[/font][font=宋体]它带来了知识[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and that knowledge has been stored in the brain as memory.
...[/font][font=宋体]那知识被当做记忆储存在了脑子里。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the response to that memory is thought.
[/font][font=宋体]而对那记忆的反应就是思想。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? That's simple.
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?这很简单。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So my experience is limited...
[/font][font=宋体]所以我的经验是局限的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...my knowledge is limited...
...[/font][font=宋体]我的知识是局限的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...my memory is limited, so my thought is limited.
...[/font][font=宋体]我的记忆是局限的,所以我的思想是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? These are facts.
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?这些是事实。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So whatever thought does is limited.
[/font][font=宋体]所以,不管思想做的是什么,总是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whatever it does, whether it imagines...
[/font][font=宋体]不管它做什么,不管它是不是想象[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there is eternity, it's limited...
...[/font][font=宋体]有永恒存在,它是受限的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...whether god, invented by thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想发明的上帝[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that god will still be limited.
...[/font][font=宋体]那上帝也还是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I can give him various attributes, say he is omnipotent...
[/font][font=宋体]我能给他很多特性,比如说他是万能的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...he is all powerful, all compassion, but he is still limited...
...[/font][font=宋体]他是无所不能的,大慈大悲,但他还是局限的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because thought has put him there.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为是思想把他放在那儿的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So thought is limited.
[/font][font=宋体]所以思想是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do we see this fact?
[/font][font=宋体]我们看清这个事实了吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not my explanation of the fact...
[/font][font=宋体]不是我对这个事实的解释[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but the fact that thought is always limited...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是思想总是受限的这个事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because it is based on knowledge.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为它是以知识为基础的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Knowledge can expand...
[/font][font=宋体]知识可以扩展[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...more, and more, and more, and more.
...[/font][font=宋体]变得越来越多,越来越多。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When there is more, there is still more.
[/font][font=宋体]当已经有了更多,还会有更多。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]More is a measurement.
[/font][font=宋体]更多是一种衡量。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the 'more', which is measurement...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,“更多”作为一种衡量[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and that measurement is limited.
...[/font][font=宋体]这种衡量本身就是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whenever I say, I am better, it is limited.
[/font][font=宋体]无论何时,只要我说,“我更好”,那就是局限。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So thought is limited.
[/font][font=宋体]所以思想是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And all our actions based on thought naturally must be limited.
[/font][font=宋体]那么我们所有基于思想的行动自然必定是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Clear?
[/font][font=宋体]清楚了吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That's a fact. Now what does limitation do?
[/font][font=宋体]这是个事实。那么,局限又起到什么作用呢?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When I am thinking about myself, which is very limited...
[/font][font=宋体]当我考虑我自己,这是很局限的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I spend all my days thinking about myself...
...[/font][font=宋体]我花去所有的时日考虑我自己[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that limitation creates...
...[/font][font=宋体]这种局限就制造了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...trouble for somebody else...
...[/font][font=宋体]别人的麻烦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to my wife, to my husband, to my children...
...[/font][font=宋体]给我妻子,我的丈夫,我的孩子们制造了麻烦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because I am thinking about myself which is very small.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为我在考虑我自己,这是很渺小的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Any action that is limited must bring conflict.
[/font][font=宋体]局限的行为必然带来冲突。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]My country, small...
[/font][font=宋体]我的国家,渺小的国家[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the country may be enormous...
...[/font][font=宋体]这国家可能幅员辽阔[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...many thousands of miles across...
...[/font][font=宋体]跨越数千英里[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but my concept of my country is very small.
...[/font][font=宋体]但是我对我的国家的概念十分渺小。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I can imagine it is not...
[/font][font=宋体]我能想象它不渺小[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but it is still that imagination saying...
...[/font][font=宋体]但是还是那个想象在说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is very large, it is marvellous - it is still limited.
...[/font][font=宋体]它是伟大的,它是奇妙的[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]那依然是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So that limitation is creating conflict with another limitation...
[/font][font=宋体]所以那局限制造了和另一个局限之间的冲突[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with a British limitation, or...
...[/font][font=宋体]和一个英国的局限,或者[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is your common enemy now?
...[/font][font=宋体]现在你们共同的敌人是谁?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So it goes on.
[/font][font=宋体]于是它继续下去。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So, do we see this fact that limitation...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,我们是否看清了这个事实,即那局限[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...must create division and therefore conflict?
...[/font][font=宋体]必然制造界分,进而制造冲突?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And we have accepted conflict as inevitable...
[/font][font=宋体]我们已经接受冲突是不可避免的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as part of our existence.
...[/font][font=宋体]是我们生存的一部分。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And we have never asked...
[/font][font=宋体]我们从未问过[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is it possible to live without conflict?
...[/font][font=宋体]是否可能没有冲突地生活?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And it is only possible if you understand...
[/font][font=宋体]只有你了解了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the whole significance of thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]思想的整个作用那才有可能。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And to find out what place has thought...
[/font][font=宋体]去发现思想的作用是什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and where thought has no place at all.
...[/font][font=宋体]发现思想根本没有作用的那个地方在哪?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Thought has a place...
[/font][font=宋体]思想有它的作用[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when you go from here to your house, drive a car...
...[/font][font=宋体]当你从这里开车回家的时候[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...write a letter, do your business, the computer...
...[/font][font=宋体]写信,做生意,打电脑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and all the rest of it, thought there is necessary.
...[/font][font=宋体]以及其他所有一切,思想在这里是必要的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And in the psychological world is it necessary at all...
[/font][font=宋体]而在心理世界,到底需不需要它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is my relationship with another?
...[/font][font=宋体]在我和别人的关系中需要吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Go into it, sir, work it out.
[/font][font=宋体]深入进去,先生,解决它。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]In your relationship with another, intimate or not...
[/font][font=宋体]在你和别人的关系中,不管亲密与否[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has thought a place...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想有它的地位吗[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...knowing that thought is limited, divisive, therefore conflict?
...[/font][font=宋体]知道了思想是局限的,分裂的,因而是冲突的?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you see that as an actuality...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你看清这是一个事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not just a theory, a concept...
...[/font][font=宋体]不只是一个理论,一个概念[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then that very perception, the seeing of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]那么这觉察本身,看到事实本身[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then relationship means something entirely different.
...[/font][font=宋体]就让关系的意义完全不同了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So one asks then much further...
[/font][font=宋体]于是一个人进一步问[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...perhaps this is not the moment...
...[/font][font=宋体]也许时候还没到[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is love an attribute of thought?
...[/font][font=宋体]爱是思想的一个特质吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is the relationship of love to thought?
[/font][font=宋体]爱和思想的关系是什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Has it any relationship, or no relationship at all?
[/font][font=宋体]它们有任何关系吗?还是根本就无关?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We will go into that when we talk about all this.
[/font][font=宋体]在谈到所有这些的时候,我们会深入进去的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But the question is: what is the root of thought...
[/font][font=宋体]但是现在的问题是:思想的根源是什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and whether thought can bring about a change?
...[/font][font=宋体]思想是否能带来改变?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please understand, this is the question.
[/font][font=宋体]请了解,这是那个问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is the factor that ends this...
[/font][font=宋体]终结这些的因素是什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the continuity, the chain of continuity...
...[/font][font=宋体]这连续性,这连续的链条[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and what actually brings change?
...[/font][font=宋体]什么会带来真正的改变?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Can thought bring change?
[/font][font=宋体]思想能带来改变吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That which is limited thinks it can change.
[/font][font=宋体]那局限的东西以为它能改变。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And therefore when it tries to change it will still be limited.
[/font][font=宋体]所以当它努力改变的时候,它还是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if you see all this.
[/font][font=宋体]我想知道你是否看到了这些。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is not clever, logical conclusions but actuality.
[/font][font=宋体]这不是机巧的逻辑的结论,而是事实。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There must be change in human behaviour...
[/font][font=宋体]人类的行为必然会改变[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...human endeavour, human existence. That's obvious.
...[/font][font=宋体]人类的努力,人类的存在会改变。这是很明显的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But when thought organises the change...
[/font][font=宋体]但是如果是思想组织了这些改变[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that change is still limited, therefore no change at all.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么那改变就依然是局限的,因而根本就没改变。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When thought says, I am going to create an organisation...
[/font][font=宋体]当思想说,我要创造一个组织[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the new world, the new box you invent...
...[/font][font=宋体]一个新世界,你发明的新匣子[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that is created by thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]这都是思想制造的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Therefore that organisation, that foundation, that institution...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,那组织,那基金会,那机构[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is limited, and it is going to create conflict.
...[/font][font=宋体]是局限的,将会制造冲突。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what is it that brings about change?
[/font][font=宋体]那么,是什么带来改变?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are following all this?
[/font][font=宋体]你们跟上这些了吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Somewhat at least.
[/font][font=宋体]至少跟上一些了吧。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Thought obviously cannot.
[/font][font=宋体]很明显思想不能。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It can organise change.
[/font][font=宋体]它能组织改变。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Organisation is put together by thought.
[/font][font=宋体]组织是思想造作的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It can plan change but the planning is limited.
[/font][font=宋体]它能计划改变,但计划是受限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So when one realises, sees the fact, the truth...
[/font][font=宋体]所以当一个人认识到,看到这事实,这真相[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that thought cannot possibly bring about a change...
...[/font][font=宋体]即思想不可能带来改变[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because thought itself is limited...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为思想本身是局限的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and therefore whatever it does is limited.
...[/font][font=宋体]所以无论它做什么都是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? Therefore what will bring change?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?那么什么会带来改变?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The thing is laid before you very clearly.
[/font][font=宋体]事情已经清晰地呈现在你眼前。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Verbally, the description is accurate...
[/font][font=宋体]语言上,描述是准确的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not exaggerated...
...[/font][font=宋体]没有夸张[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and it's left to you to answer that question...
...[/font][font=宋体]这个问题留给你来回答[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as thought cannot possibly bring about change, mutation...
...[/font][font=宋体]既然思想不可能带来改变,突变[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...total psychological revolution...
...[/font][font=宋体]带来彻底的心理革命[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then what will?
...[/font][font=宋体]那么什么会呢?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So thought says, 'Yes, god, I'll pray.'
[/font][font=宋体]于是思想说,“是的,上帝,我会祈祷。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is happening. 'I'll pray.'
[/font][font=宋体]这确实在发生。“我会祈祷的。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Prayer again is invented by thought, therefore very limited.
[/font][font=宋体]祈祷也是思想发明的,因而是很局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So if one sees the fact, the truth...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,如果一个人看清这事实,这真相[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that thought is absolutely limited...
...[/font][font=宋体]即思想是绝对局限的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then what takes place in the brain?
...[/font][font=宋体]然后脑子里会发生什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Answer it, examine.
[/font][font=宋体]回答它,检视它。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When one realises actually the fact...
[/font][font=宋体]当一个人真正认识到了事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and an enormous fact it is...
...[/font][font=宋体]这个巨大的事实,那么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is a tremendous revolution to see the fact.
...[/font][font=宋体]看清这个事实就是一个巨大的革命。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Already revolution has taken place when you see the fact.
[/font][font=宋体]当你看到这个事实时,革命就已经发生了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because we never... we said, thought can do anything...
[/font][font=宋体]因为我们从未[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][font=宋体]我们说,思想能做任何事[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it can, it has gone to the Moon, and put a silly flag on there.
...[/font][font=宋体]它能,它已经登月了,还把一面愚蠢的旗子插在了那儿。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It can do anything, but always limited.
[/font][font=宋体]它能做任何事请,但总是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you see that revolutionary fact...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你看到了这个革命性的事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there is already a mutation of the cells themselves in the brain.
...[/font][font=宋体]脑子里的细胞本身就已经发生了突变。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if you understand this?
[/font][font=宋体]我想知道你们明白了这点吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]One has walked all one's life north...
[/font][font=宋体]一个人一辈子都在往北走[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...going always north - suppose.
...[/font][font=宋体]总是往北走[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]假设说。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you come along and say, sorry, that leads nowhere...
[/font][font=宋体]你过来说,“对不起,往那边走哪儿也去不了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...try going east or west or south.
...[/font][font=宋体]试着往东面或者西面或者南面走走。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And I say, yes, I'll go south.
[/font][font=宋体]于是我说,“是的,我会往南走。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The very movement, where you had been going north...
[/font][font=宋体]你往北走的那个动作本身[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has now suddenly changed to going south.
...[/font][font=宋体]现在就突然变成了往南走。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is a mutation taking place...
[/font][font=宋体]有一个突变发生了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a change has taken place.
...[/font][font=宋体]改变发生了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You have been going north habitually day after day...
[/font][font=宋体]你之前一直习惯性地往北走,日复一日[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...so the brain is conditioned going north.
...[/font][font=宋体]所以头脑一直受限着往北走。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now you come and say, there is nothing there, you explain it...
[/font][font=宋体]现在你过来说,那边什么都没有,你也解释了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...logically, sanely, so you say, quite right, I'll go south.
...[/font][font=宋体]逻辑地,理性地解释了,于是你说,很对,我要往南走。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That movement away from the north has brought about...
[/font][font=宋体]离开向北的那行动本身就带来了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a mutation in the very brain cells themselves.
...[/font][font=宋体]脑细胞自身的突变。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You won't accept this, go into it, you will see it for yourself.
[/font][font=宋体]你不要接受这些,深入进去,你自己会看清楚。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The realisation of a truth...
[/font][font=宋体]认识到真相[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that very realisation brings a radical change.
...[/font][font=宋体]那认识本身就带来了根本的改变。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is no, 'I will meditate to change...
[/font][font=宋体]没有什么“我会冥想去改变[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I'll make an effort to change.'
...[/font][font=宋体]我会努力改变。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]4th QUESTION: Please explain what you mean by saying...
[/font][font=宋体]第四个问题:请解释你说的这句话是什么意思[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that if one perceives truth and does not act...
...[/font][font=宋体]“如果一个人看到了真相而不去行动[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it acts as poison.
...[/font][font=宋体]那真相就成为一种毒药。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you need an explanation for that?
[/font][font=宋体]你需要解释一下这个吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]All right.
[/font][font=宋体]好吧。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I have heard the truth that thought is limited.
[/font][font=宋体]我听到了真相,即思想是局限的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That's the truth, that's not an invention...
[/font][font=宋体]这是真相,不是一项发明[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that's not an exotic idea...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是一个奇思妙想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...something conceived by some idiot or other, it's a fact.
...[/font][font=宋体]不是某个白痴或者别人想出来的东西,而是个事实。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And I listen to the fact, the truth of it.
[/font][font=宋体]我听了这个事实,这个真相。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And I carry on my daily life.
[/font][font=宋体]然后我继续自己的日常生活。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What takes place?
[/font][font=宋体]然后会发生什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I have realised something to be true...
[/font][font=宋体]我认识到某件事是真实的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and I am acting quite the opposite to that.
...[/font][font=宋体]但是我的行为恰好相反。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What happens?
[/font][font=宋体]然后会发生什么?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Conflict increases more and more and more.
[/font][font=宋体]冲突在增加,越来越多,越来越多。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is much better not to hear the truth...
[/font][font=宋体]没听过这个真相反而要好得多[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then you can carry on in your old way.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么你就会继续自己原有的生活方式。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But the moment you hear something...
[/font][font=宋体]但是当你一听到某种[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be extraordinarily beautiful...
...[/font][font=宋体]非同寻常的美丽[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and that beauty is not just a mere description...
...[/font][font=宋体]那美不只是一个描述[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but the actuality of that beauty...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是那美的事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when you do something ugly...
...[/font][font=宋体]当你再做丑陋的事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and keep on repeating doing the ugly thing, it is obviously a poison.
...[/font][font=宋体]不断反复地做那丑陋的事情,那明显就变成了一种毒药。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It not only affects you physically, inwardly...
[/font][font=宋体]它不仅会从身体上,内在地影响你[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and also it affects a great deal the brain...
...[/font][font=宋体]而且还深深地影响你的大脑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that has heard something to be true and does the contrary.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为你听到了那真实正确的却做了相反的事情。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Therefore it's much better not to hear...
[/font][font=宋体]所以还不如不听[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if you want to carry on in your old way.
...[/font][font=宋体]如果你想要继续原来的生活方式的话。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is a very good story of two robbers.
[/font][font=宋体]有一个很好的故事,讲两个强盗。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And they have been robbing...
[/font][font=宋体]他们一直在抢劫[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and their father has been praising god...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们的父亲一直在感谢上帝[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...for his kindness, for their benefit - you understand...
...[/font][font=宋体]感谢他的仁慈和施舍[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]你知道[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...thieves have also gods, not only the rich people.
...[/font][font=宋体]贼也有上帝,不光是富人才有。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So one day they have been robbing somebody or other...
[/font][font=宋体]于是有一天,他们抢劫了某个人或者别的人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and they are coming back.
...[/font][font=宋体]然后回来了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]In the patio, in the square, piazza...
[/font][font=宋体]在露台,在院子里,门廊那儿[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there is a man giving a sermon, and he is saying...
...[/font][font=宋体]有个人在布道,他说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you must never steal...
...[/font][font=宋体]“你们不可以再偷盗[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you must never hurt another, be kind.
...[/font][font=宋体]你们必须不再伤害别人,要善良。”[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The other brother closes his ears, he doesn't want to hear...
[/font][font=宋体]其中一个兄弟关闭了自己的耳朵,他不想听[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the other brother hears it.
...[/font][font=宋体]而另一个兄弟听到了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And for the rest of his life he is in pain.
[/font][font=宋体]他此后的余生一直处于痛苦中。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I think this is a fact, really a great fact...
[/font][font=宋体]我想这是个事实,真真正正的巨大事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and we don't seem to realise it...
...[/font][font=宋体]而我们看起来并没有认识到[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that when something enormously beautiful...
...[/font][font=宋体]当一个极其美丽的东西[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you see, you are sensitive enough to see that beauty...
...[/font][font=宋体]你看到了,你足够敏感能看到那美[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and you do something ugly...
...[/font][font=宋体]可你却做了丑陋的事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it really tortures you, if you are sensitive.
...[/font][font=宋体]这对你真是种折磨,如果你是敏感的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And that's why truth is such a dangerous thing.
[/font][font=宋体]那就是为什么真相是这么危险的东西。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]5th QUESTION: Why is the observance of silence...
[/font][font=宋体]第五个问题:为什么遵行寂静[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...so important for seekers of truth?
...[/font][font=宋体]对真理的追求者如此重要?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why is the observance of silence so important for seekers of truth?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么遵行寂静对真理的追求者如此重要?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Who said this?
[/font][font=宋体]这是谁说的?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Who said that the observance of silence...
[/font][font=宋体]谁说遵行寂静[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is necessary to perceive truth?
...[/font][font=宋体]是觉察到真相所必需的?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Has the speaker said it?
[/font][font=宋体]讲话者这么说过?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or some other person said it?
[/font][font=宋体]还是有别的人这么说过?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or have you searched for truth...
[/font][font=宋体]还是你寻求过真理[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and you have discovered silence is necessary?
...[/font][font=宋体]然后发现寂静是必需的?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Can truth be searched?
[/font][font=宋体]真理能被追寻吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白我的问题吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Can truth be sought after?
[/font][font=宋体]真理能被追寻吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you seek truth you have already established what truth is.
[/font][font=宋体]如果你追寻真理,那你就已经确定真理是什么了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are already moving in that direction.
[/font][font=宋体]你已经在朝着那个方向前进了。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Which means truth is something fixed...
[/font][font=宋体]那意味着真理是个固定的东西[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and you, in your search for truth you find it...
...[/font][font=宋体]而你,通过找寻,能够发现真理[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because truth is already preconceived...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为真理已经被预想出来了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and you go after it.
...[/font][font=宋体]你要去追寻它。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now, why do you think silence is necessary?
[/font][font=宋体]那么,你为什么觉得寂静是必需的?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I don't know.
[/font][font=宋体]我不知道。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Somebody says so.
[/font][font=宋体]有人这么说。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So I am not going to listen to another, however reputed...
[/font][font=宋体]所以我不想听别人说,不管他多么有名[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or has a great reputation and all that nonsense.
...[/font][font=宋体]或者有巨大的声望以及所有那些废话。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am going to find out.
[/font][font=宋体]我要去发现。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Can a chattering mind, brain, chattering, ever listen to anything?
[/font][font=宋体]一颗喋喋不休的心,头脑,喋喋不休地,能倾听任何事情吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are chattering, talking to your friend, and you come along and say...
[/font][font=宋体]你在闲聊,跟你的朋友说话,然后你走过来说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I want to tell you something.
...[/font][font=宋体]我想告诉你一件事。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You don't listen because you are chattering.
[/font][font=宋体]你不会听,因为你在聊天。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So can a chattering mind listen?
[/font][font=宋体]所以,一颗喋喋不休的心能够聆听吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Obviously not.
[/font][font=宋体]很明显不能。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So to listen you have to pay attention.
[/font][font=宋体]所以要倾听,你就得付出注意力。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? That's natural.
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?这是自然的。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]To pay attention...
[/font][font=宋体]付出注意力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is rather difficult because we never attend to anything completely...
...[/font][font=宋体]这相当难,因为我们从不全神贯注于任何事[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we say partially, listen partially...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们部分地说,部分地听[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...talk partially, and do this partially.
...[/font][font=宋体]部分地谈话,部分地做这些。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We never proceed to find out anything to its very end.
[/font][font=宋体]我们从不前去发现任何事请的最尽头。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I don't know where the end is but we will go on...
[/font][font=宋体]我不知道终点在哪,但是我们会继续[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...until we discover something.
...[/font][font=宋体]直到我们有所发现。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So can a chattering mind, can a mind that is occupied...
[/font][font=宋体]所以,一颗喋喋不休的心,一颗被占据的心[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from morning until night, and during the night...
...[/font][font=宋体]从早到晚,在夜里也被占据着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...can it ever be quiet?
...[/font][font=宋体]它能安静下来吗?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not to find truth, good god!
[/font][font=宋体]不要去寻找真理,老天![/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It's an ordinary question.
[/font][font=宋体]这是个普通的问题。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please answer it for oneself...
[/font][font=宋体]请自己去解答[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...can a brain that is occupied...
...[/font][font=宋体]一个被占据的头脑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with business, with sex, with pleasure, with fear...
...[/font][font=宋体]被生意,被性,被欢愉,被恐惧[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with its loneliness, you follow, occupied with something or other...
...[/font][font=宋体]被孤独,(你跟上了吗)被这样或那样的事占据[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with its hair, how it looks, how it doesn't look.
...[/font][font=宋体]被发型,外表看起来如何或者不如何所占据。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You know, all the rest of it - it is occupied...
[/font][font=宋体]你知道,所有这些东西,它被占据着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with god, with Jesus...
...[/font][font=宋体]被上帝,耶稣[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with saviours, with meditation...
...[/font][font=宋体]被救世主,被冥想占据[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...think of that: being occupied with meditation!
...[/font][font=宋体]想想这个:被冥想占据![/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the natural question then is: is it possible to stop...
[/font][font=宋体]所以问题自然就是:有没有可能停止[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...this tremendous endless continuity of occupation?
...[/font][font=宋体]这巨大的延绵不绝的占据?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It would be natural to stop...
[/font][font=宋体]那占据自然会停止[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when you are attending to something.
...[/font][font=宋体]如果你全神贯注于某件事。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you are attending to what the speaker is saying now, attend...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你全神贯注于讲话者现在说的话,关注[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is listening, you are not occupied, you are listening.
...[/font][font=宋体]就是倾听,你就没有被占据,你在聆听。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But in that listening you say, no, I don't quite agree with that...
[/font][font=宋体]但是如果你听的时候说,“不,我不太同意你说的话[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I think you are right, I think you should put it differently...
...[/font][font=宋体]我想你是对的,我想你应该换种方式说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I understand this differently...
...[/font][font=宋体]我对此的理解不同[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...why do I understand it differently, and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]我为什么理解的不同,等等。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But if you actually listen...
[/font][font=宋体]但是如果你是真的在倾听[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you are attentive, and attention is silence.
...[/font][font=宋体]你是全神贯注的,那关注就是寂静。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder why we make everything so complex.
[/font][font=宋体]我想知道为什么我们把每件事都变得这么复杂。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Life is complex, tremendously...
[/font][font=宋体]生活是复杂的,非常复杂[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...like the computer...
...[/font][font=宋体]就像计算机一样[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is a tremendously complex thing.
...[/font][font=宋体]它是个非常复杂的事情。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But to understand it one must have a very simple mind.
[/font][font=宋体]但是要了解它,就必须有一颗非常简单的心。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]To have a simple clear mind, uncluttered...
[/font][font=宋体]拥有一个简单清澈的心,没有喋喋不休[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then attention becomes extraordinarily simple.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么注意力就变得格外简单。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That's enough for today.
[/font][font=宋体]今天就讲到这里。[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Are you all right?
[/font][font=宋体]你还好吧?[/font][/color][/p]
[p=30, 2, left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It's over.
[/font][font=宋体]结束了。[/font][/color][/p]
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