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Sue 发表于 2009-11-3 08:41

克里希纳穆提讲话视频字幕-注意力与秩序 问答二——小a译

[align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Glancing through the questions...
[/font][font=宋体]浏览这些问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we never seem to ask...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们似乎从来不问[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...questions concerning our daily life.
...[/font][font=宋体]与我们的日常生活息息相关的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And there have been a lot of theoretical...
[/font][font=宋体]有很多理论上的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...ideological questions...
...[/font][font=宋体]意识形态上的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that really have no meaning at all.
...[/font][font=宋体]它们根本就没有任何意义。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]One wonders why one doesn't ask questions...
[/font][font=宋体]我很纳闷一个人为什么从来不问[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...about one's own life...
...[/font][font=宋体]关于自己生活的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...depression, anxiety...
...[/font][font=宋体]沮丧，焦虑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a sense of deep loneliness and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]深深的孤独感，等等。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Aren't we really concerned with our daily life...
[/font][font=宋体]我们难道真的不关心[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or is it just that we live in a make-believe world...
...[/font][font=宋体]还是我们只是生活在一个信以为真的世界里[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and try to find answers to some romantic...
...[/font][font=宋体]并试图找到答案来回答某些浪漫的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...sentimental, idealistic, or religious beliefs?
...[/font][font=宋体]伤感的，理想主义的，或者宗教信念的问题？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder why, one asks, if I may...
[/font][font=宋体]我不明白为什么，如果可以，我想问[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...why don't we ask such questions directly, simply about oneself?
...[/font][font=宋体]我们为什么不直接、简明地对自己提出这些质疑？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We all want to end war...
[/font][font=宋体]我们都希望结束战争[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...at least some people do.
...[/font][font=宋体]至少一部分人是这样。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And pacem in terris, that is, peace on earth, in Latin...
[/font][font=宋体]“和平于世”，即世上的和平，不能降临在拉丁美洲[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is not possible, apparently, in this world...
...[/font][font=宋体]显然，也不会降临于整个世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in spite of demonstrations...
...[/font][font=宋体]尽管人们游行、集会[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in spite of all the preaching of the priests...
...[/font][font=宋体]尽管牧师传道[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and religious books and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及出版诸多宗教书籍等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we can never have peace in this world apparently.
...[/font][font=宋体]很明显，我们永不可能让和平降临于世[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And we never ask if one can live peacefully in our daily life...
[/font][font=宋体]并且我们从来不问一个人是否能够过上平和的日常生活[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...without any violence...
...[/font][font=宋体]没有暴力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...without all the innumerable multiplying problems...
...[/font][font=宋体]没有无穷无尽的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...live a clear, simple, strong life.
...[/font][font=宋体]活在清晰，简单，坚定的生活当中。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Apparently that is not possible...
[/font][font=宋体]很明显这并不可能[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and we don't ask such questions.
...[/font][font=宋体]而且我们也并没有质疑。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]May I raise a question?
[/font][font=宋体]我可以提一个问题么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why do you come?
[/font][font=宋体]你们为什么而来？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please, I really mean it, why are we all here?
[/font][font=宋体]注意，我是认真的，我们为什么聚集在这里？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When the speaker is in India...
[/font][font=宋体]当我在印度演讲[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and talks to between 5 to 8 thousand people at every meeting...
...[/font][font=宋体]每次会议都面对着[/font][font=Times New Roman]5[/font][font=宋体]千至[/font][font=Times New Roman]8[/font][font=宋体]千人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...they come there...
...[/font][font=宋体]听众们来到会场[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...most of them understand English...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们大多数懂英语[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and most of them come...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们大多数的到场[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be in the presence of a religious person...
...[/font][font=宋体]是作为一个宗教人士[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...at least they quote, 'religious person'.
...[/font][font=宋体]至少他们称作，“宗教人士”[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]They don't quite understand what the speaker is talking about...
[/font][font=宋体]其实他们并不明白演讲者所说的内容[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I am sure they don't.
...[/font][font=宋体]我敢肯定他们不懂。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But they must come as it is the tradition, it is the fashion...
[/font][font=宋体]但他们必须来，因为这是一个传统、一种潮流[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is the reputation, the image...
...[/font][font=宋体]这是名望，是形象[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and all that nonsense...
...[/font][font=宋体]是任何没有意义的事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I was going to use a stronger word!
...[/font][font=宋体]我打算用一个更强烈的词！[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And perhaps you come here out of curiosity...
[/font][font=宋体]可能你们来这里是出于好奇[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or to spend a nice morning...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者想度过一个美好的上午[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...under the trees, and the dappled light...
...[/font][font=宋体]在大树的荫蔽下，在日光的斑驳中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or take a sun bath and listen to the poor chap.
...[/font][font=宋体]晒晒太阳，听听这个可怜的家伙的讲述。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And so you go on that way.
[/font][font=宋体]所以你们继续着这些事情。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]All this doesn't actually deeply, profoundly change us.
[/font][font=宋体]但所有这些并不会真的、深刻的、彻底的改变我们。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What makes human beings change?
[/font][font=宋体]那么什么会让人类改变？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is really a very serious question.
[/font][font=宋体]这是一个非常严肃的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why do we behave as we do behave?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么我们持续着我们既有的行为方式？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is it possible that suffering...
[/font][font=宋体]苦难[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...pain, anxiety...
...[/font][font=宋体]痛苦、焦虑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a sense of desperate depression...
...[/font][font=宋体]令人绝望的沮丧感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...out of which one finds oneself...
...[/font][font=宋体]那种令人觉得[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...almost impossible to get out of...
...[/font][font=宋体]无法自拔的感受[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the terrible ambitions...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及可怕的野心[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the competition, and all that kind of thing that is going on...
...[/font][font=宋体]竞争，和所有类似的现象都在继续着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...can we change all that, each one?
...[/font][font=宋体]我们能否改变所有这些，一个不剩[/font][font=Times New Roman]?[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you will inevitably ask, does it really matter...
[/font][font=宋体]你不可避免地会问必须要改变么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if I change, if one changes...
...[/font][font=宋体]如果我去改变，如果一个人去改变[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...will it in any way affect the whole human endeavour...
...[/font][font=宋体]这是否会改变整个人类的努力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and their mischief, and their superstitions and violence?
...[/font][font=宋体]以及人类的灾难、迷信和暴力？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And one thinks that is a wrong question to put.
[/font][font=宋体]你也许认为这是一个错误的提问。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That is, you will change only...
[/font][font=宋体]也就是说，你只有在确定这会影响整个世界的前提下[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if it affects the rest of the world.
...[/font][font=宋体]你才会改变。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And if it doesn't, it doesn't matter very much how one lives.
[/font][font=宋体]如果并非如此，一个人怎样生活也就不那么重要了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]One wonders if you have ever considered...
[/font][font=宋体]我在想你们是否曾思考过[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...how one man can change...
...[/font][font=宋体]一个人怎么能够改变[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the whole human consciousness, human beings.
...[/font][font=宋体]整个人类的意识及人类本身。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]One man.
[/font][font=宋体]一个人。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]As a bad example of a neurotic and insane person like Hitler...
[/font][font=宋体]举一个不好的例子，譬如像希特勒一样病态疯狂的人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...who has done such tremendous harm to the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]他对世界进行了如此巨大的破坏[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...he has changed...
...[/font][font=宋体]他改变了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or affected the rest of the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者影响了整个世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...their consciousness, their behaviour.
...[/font][font=宋体]包括人们的意识、行为。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you might also say, has the Buddha...
[/font][font=宋体]你可能又会问，佛陀[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...two thousand five hundred years ago...
...[/font][font=宋体]两千五百年之前的佛陀[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has he in any way affected the world?
...[/font][font=宋体]他究竟有没有改变世界？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or the Christians believe in the saviour, Jesus and all that...
[/font][font=宋体]或者基督教徒们信仰的救世主、耶稣等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...have they really changed the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们都有没有真正改变世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...changed human minds...
...[/font][font=宋体]改变人类的心智[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...human behaviour, endless suffering?
...[/font][font=宋体]人类的行为，及无休止的苦难？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or have the priests throughout the world...
[/font][font=宋体]或者全世界的牧师们[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...prevented this change?
...[/font][font=宋体]是否阻止了这场改变？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]One has no direct - direct...
[/font][font=宋体]人并没有直接地[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]直接地[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...teachings of the Buddha, or that of Jesus.
...[/font][font=宋体]从佛陀或者耶稣那里获得教诲。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]His teachings apparently were interpreted after sixty years...
[/font][font=宋体]他的教诲都是在六十年后被别人阐释的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...so there is no direct teachings.
...[/font][font=宋体]所以没有直接的教诲。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And perhaps that has prevented human beings...
[/font][font=宋体]很可能这阻止了人类[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from acting rightly.
...[/font][font=宋体]采取正确的行为。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So one wonders all along the long journey of one's life...
[/font][font=宋体]所以我想，在一个人的漫长生命之旅中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...why profoundly human beings don't change their ways of life.
...[/font][font=宋体]为什么人们固执地不去改变他们的生活方式。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is more suffering necessary?
[/font][font=宋体]必须要有更多的苦难么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is more violence necessary?
[/font][font=宋体]必须要有更多的暴力么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]More experts and so on?
[/font][font=宋体]更多的专家等等？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or we haven't got the energy, the drive, the passion...
[/font][font=宋体]还是我们没有力量，动力、热情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the intensity to change...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及激情去改变[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the pattern of one's deep behaviours?
...[/font][font=宋体]我们根深蒂固的行为方式？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please do ask these questions of yourself.
[/font][font=宋体]请认真地问一问自己这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And here there are many questions given.
[/font][font=宋体]这里提出了很多的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Questions imply problems.
[/font][font=宋体]质疑意味着问题存在。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And problems ought to be solved.
[/font][font=宋体]问题应该被解决。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not in the resolution of one problem...
[/font][font=宋体]而不是在一个问题的解决过程中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a dozen other problems arise.
...[/font][font=宋体]产生一堆别的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The ending of a problem, of any problem.
[/font][font=宋体]而是终结一个问题，终结所有问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And apparently we don't seem able to do that, either politically...
[/font][font=宋体]很明显，我们似乎不可能做到这一点，无论从政治上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...economically, socially and so on, or religiously.
...[/font][font=宋体]经济上，社会上，宗教上等等。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is a perpetual reorganisation.
[/font][font=宋体]这将永远是场重组。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When that reorganisation doesn't function properly...
[/font][font=宋体]当这个重组不能正常运作[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...reorganise it...
...[/font][font=宋体]就再重组它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...keep on reorganising every organisation.
...[/font][font=宋体]持续不断的重组另一个组织。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I don't know if you have not noticed this.
[/font][font=宋体]我不知道你们是否已经注意到这点。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And this is called progress.
[/font][font=宋体]这就是所谓的进步。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is called bringing about order in the world.
[/font][font=宋体]这就是所谓的给世界带来秩序。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Can one put aside...
[/font][font=宋体]我们能不能把这些放到一边[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...all organisations, spiritual specially...
...[/font][font=宋体]所有这些组织，尤其是灵性上的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if one can use that word that has been so spoilt...
...[/font][font=宋体]如果我还可以用这个词的话，这个词已经面目全非[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not belong to anything at all...
...[/font][font=宋体]不属于任何事物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not be caught in any box, in any system...
...[/font][font=宋体]也不陷入任何空间、体系中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and work, look, observe...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是去工作、去看、去观察[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...perceive one's own behaviour, change?
...[/font][font=宋体]去察觉我们自身的行为，并且改变？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And why doesn't one do all this?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么没有人这样做？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why does one depend on others?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么人都依赖他人？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please do ask these questions...
[/font][font=宋体]请问问自己这些问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...most seriously if one may request you.
...[/font][font=宋体]极其认真地问，如果我可以请求你这么做的话。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]1st QUESTION: There are moments of awareness...
[/font][font=宋体]第一个问题：有一些觉察的时刻[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in which there is great clarity...
...[/font][font=宋体]其中存在着巨大的清澈[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and fear, division, and the experiences are absent.
...[/font][font=宋体]恐惧、界分，以及一切经验都不在了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But the moments are brief.
[/font][font=宋体]但这样的时刻是短暂的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is necessary to allow a sustained clarity...
[/font][font=宋体]怎样才能让清澈持续[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...intensity, and the wholeness of being?
...[/font][font=宋体]让热情及存在的整体性持续？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There are moments of awareness in which there is great clarity...
[/font][font=宋体]有这样一些觉察的时刻，其中有着巨大的清澈[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and fear, division, and the experiences are absent.
...[/font][font=宋体]恐惧、界分，以及一切经验都不在了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But the moments are brief.
[/font][font=宋体]但这样的时刻是短暂的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is necessary to allow a sustained clarity...
[/font][font=宋体]怎样才能让清澈持续[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...intensity, and the wholeness of being?
...[/font][font=宋体]让热情及存在的整体性持续？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whom are you asking this question?
[/font][font=宋体]这个问题你在问谁？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is apparently a serious question. It looks serious.
[/font][font=宋体]显然这是一个严肃的问题。看起来很严肃。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whom are you asking?
[/font][font=宋体]你在问谁？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you want a reply from somebody.
[/font][font=宋体]你希望从某人那里得到回答。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That somebody is the speaker here, for the moment.
[/font][font=宋体]这个人此刻是这个讲话者。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If the speaker doesn't satisfy you with the answer...
[/font][font=宋体]如果讲话者的回答没有令你满意[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you trot off to somebody else.
...[/font][font=宋体]你又转向他人。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And if that somebody else isn't good enough you go after somebody else.
[/font][font=宋体]如果这个人还不够令你满意你又去找下一个人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You keep this going.
[/font][font=宋体]你继续如此下去。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And that means, doesn't it...
[/font][font=宋体]这不是就意味着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we depend on others to tell us what to do...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们依赖别人来告诉我们该做什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what to think, how to find clarity...
...[/font][font=宋体]该想什么，怎样找到清澈[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...sanity, a wholeness of life.
...[/font][font=宋体]理智，及生命的完整。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Always, apparently, we depend on somebody.
[/font][font=宋体]很明显，我们总是依靠别人。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We never look into this question, ask ourselves...
[/font][font=宋体]我们从不观察问题本身，问问我们自己[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and see if we can, for ourselves...
...[/font][font=宋体]看我们是否能够，为了自己[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...totally independent of others...
...[/font][font=宋体]完全独立于他人地[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...find out if it is possible...
...[/font][font=宋体]去发现这是否可能[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be absolutely unconfused...
...[/font][font=宋体]可否完全无所困惑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be absolutely clear...
...[/font][font=宋体]完全地清澈[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not momentarily...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是暂时的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not occasionally when you have nothing else to do...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是偶尔当你没有其他事可做的时候[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but is it possible?
...[/font][font=宋体]而这真的可能么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not the continuity of clarity.
[/font][font=宋体]（我讲的）不是清澈的持续。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Suppose one is clear for a moment...
[/font][font=宋体]假设一个人在某刻很清醒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and that clarity for a second...
...[/font][font=宋体]这种清澈持续了一秒钟[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...banishes away fear, experiences and all that...
...[/font][font=宋体]祛除了恐惧、经验及其他所有的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then that memory of that clarity...
...[/font][font=宋体]之后这有关清澈的记忆[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is not the fact of clarity.
...[/font][font=宋体]并不是真实的清澈本身[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if you see this?
[/font][font=宋体]我不知道你们是否看到了这点？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Suppose I am walking in the woods...
[/font][font=宋体]假设我在树林中行走[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not in California, here...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是在加利福尼亚，就在这儿[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is too strong the sun...
...[/font][font=宋体]阳光太强烈[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...suppose one is walking among the woods...
...[/font][font=宋体]假设一个人正在行走在树林中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and listening to the birds, and to the spotted lights...
...[/font][font=宋体]聆听着鸟鸣，以及斑驳的阳光[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the beauty of the foliage...
...[/font][font=宋体]和树叶的美[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and for a moment there is absolute clarity.
...[/font][font=宋体]在那一时刻有着纯粹的清澈。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And that clarity has left...
[/font][font=宋体]然后那清澈留下了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...an imprint on the brain...
...[/font][font=宋体]脑中的标记[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it says, 'By Jove, how clear it was.'
...[/font][font=宋体]它说，“天啊，如此清晰。”[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then one wants that clarity to continue...
[/font][font=宋体]然后就希望那种清澈能持续[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...don't we?
...[/font][font=宋体]我们不是这样吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Like pleasure, you want it to continue.
[/font][font=宋体]就像欢愉，你希望它持续。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The continuity is the movement of memory. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]这种持续其实是记忆的运转。是不是？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I must go into all that.
[/font][font=宋体]我必须深入这些问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It involves time, doesn't it?
[/font][font=宋体]它包含着时间，不是吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Anything that continues must have time, the implication of time.
[/font][font=宋体]任何持续的事物必然包含着时间、时间的含义。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And time will not allow clarity.
[/font][font=宋体]但时间不会允许清澈存在。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is the freedom from time that is clarity.
[/font][font=宋体]摆脱了时间的自由才是清澈。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Let's go into this again, if we may.
[/font][font=宋体]如果可以，让我们再深入一次。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Say, for example, one wants security, psychologically.
[/font][font=宋体]举例来说，一个人想得到心理上的安全[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And one for a few seconds, or for a few days, one has this feeling...
[/font][font=宋体]他拥有了几秒钟，或者几天这种感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...of absolutely being safe...
...[/font][font=宋体]绝对安全的感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...protected, solidly secure.
...[/font][font=宋体]被保护着的，牢固的安全感。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then that disappears after a few days.
[/font][font=宋体]而这种感觉在几天后消失了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But the memory of that feeling remains.
[/font][font=宋体]但是对这种感觉的记忆留下了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And we want to continue that...
[/font][font=宋体]我们试图让这感觉继续[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which has happened two days ago.
...[/font][font=宋体]这个发生在两天前的感觉。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? This is what we are all caught in.
[/font][font=宋体]是不是？这就是我们所陷入的（问题）。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That is, the duration of an experience which has finished...
[/font][font=宋体]这就是已经结束的经验持续的那段时间[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the memory of it we want...
...[/font][font=宋体]当我们回忆这种体验，我们希望[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the memory wants continuity of that thing which has happened.
...[/font][font=宋体]记忆希望继续保持那已经发生过的感受。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So if we could look at this question...
[/font][font=宋体]所以如果我们可以观察这个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...time by the watch...
...[/font][font=宋体]时间，手表上的时间[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...by the sunset and sunrise...
...[/font][font=宋体]随着日升日落[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...time as day and night...
...[/font][font=宋体]白天黑夜的时间[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...time of year and so on, that is there is time.
...[/font][font=宋体]一年或者其他等等也就是说，时间存在着。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And thought is also time. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]其实思想也是时间。是不是？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are following this?
[/font][font=宋体]你们跟上了么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Time is a movement of thought...
[/font][font=宋体]时间是思想的运动[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from the past to the present and the future...
...[/font][font=宋体]从过去到现在再到未来[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is a movement of time.
...[/font][font=宋体]这就是时间的运动。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This movement has its own continuity. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]这种运动有它自己的持续性。对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Are we together following this?
[/font][font=宋体]我们都一起跟上了吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the brain, which has evolved through time, says...
[/font][font=宋体]于是头脑，已经包含了时间的大脑，会说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...continuity is essential because...
...[/font][font=宋体]持续是必要的因为[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you understand?..
...[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗？[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...for it to continue it is essential.
...[/font][font=宋体]要想头脑继续存在时间是必要的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Physically, biologically, it is necessary.
[/font][font=宋体]从物理学角度，生物学角度，这都是必要的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But psychologically it wants also to continue.
[/font][font=宋体]但从心理上头脑也想持续下去。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the brain becomes confused...
[/font][font=宋体]所以头脑变得迷惑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when there is no continuity.
...[/font][font=宋体]当持续不存在的时候。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Are you following all this?
[/font][font=宋体]你们都跟上了吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Are we together somewhat in this?
[/font][font=宋体]我们多少会有些共鸣吧？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And one questions whether there is psychological continuity at all.
[/font][font=宋体]我质疑在心理上究竟是否存在持续性。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are questioning, I am not stating...
[/font][font=宋体]我们在质疑，我不是在陈述[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is there psychological continuity at all?
...[/font][font=宋体]究竟是否存在心理上的持续？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That is, the moments of clarity...
[/font][font=宋体]也就是，清澈的时刻[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which banishes, puts aside all fear...
...[/font][font=宋体]也就是消除了，抛开了所有恐惧[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...all problems, and all the travail of life...
...[/font][font=宋体]所有问题，以及所有生命的痛苦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it happens in a moment.
...[/font][font=宋体]清澈发生在这一刻。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the brain says, it must continue.
[/font][font=宋体]头脑会说，这清澈必须要持续。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because it only thinks in terms of time, a continuity. You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]因为头脑只会按照时间去思考，这是一种延续。你明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Biologically it is necessary to continue day after day. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]从生物学考虑，一天天的持续是必要的。对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The same house, same food, same clothes...
[/font][font=宋体]同样的房子，同样的食物，同样的衣服[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...same roof over the head.
...[/font][font=宋体]头上同样的屋顶。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Psychologically also we want in relationship security to continue.
[/font][font=宋体]从心理的角度我们同样希望关系中的安全可以持续。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? Are you following all this?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？你们都跟上了么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is there in relationship security at all?
[/font][font=宋体]在关系中安全究竟是否存在？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Which is a duration of long period of time.
[/font][font=宋体]这种安全是一段很长时间的持续。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When there is the demand for that there is conflict.
[/font][font=宋体]当有这种需求存在的时候冲突也就产生了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if you understand this.
[/font][font=宋体]我不知道你们明不明白这点。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Oh, no!
[/font][font=宋体]哦，没有！[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Relationship, as it is very important...
[/font][font=宋体]关系，是非常重要的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is a tremendously important thing in life, relationship...
...[/font][font=宋体]它是生活中极其重要的事情，关系[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...one cannot possibly exist in this world without relationship...
...[/font][font=宋体]一个人不可能脱离关系存在于世上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...whether you are a monk, a sannyasi, a wanderer...
...[/font][font=宋体]不论你是修道士，遁世者，或者流浪者[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you are always related to the past or to a person...
...[/font][font=宋体]你都要和过去或者某个人有所关联[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or to a concept of the future.
...[/font][font=宋体]或者和某种意义上的未来有关联。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It isn't just merely physical relationship.
[/font][font=宋体]这不仅仅是物理上的联系。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]As relationship is very seriously important in life...
[/font][font=宋体]关系在生活中是非常重要的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there are moments in which relationship has great depth...
...[/font][font=宋体]在有些时候，关系具有巨大的深度[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...silence and a sense of tremendous well-being.
...[/font][font=宋体]宁静以及一种无以伦比的美好感觉。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? Don't you know all this?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？你们知道这些么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The speaker hasn't to go through all this, but he will go through it.
[/font][font=宋体]讲话者没必要讨论所有这些，但这点他必须强调。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And that, those moments of deep sense of fullness, wholeness...
[/font][font=宋体]那些感到深切的充实、完整的片刻[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is registered, recorded in the brain...
...[/font][font=宋体]被我们记录在脑中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the function of the brain is to record and keep it going.
...[/font][font=宋体]大脑的功能便是记录这些时刻并让它们延续。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And so the memory begins to play an important part.
[/font][font=宋体]所以记忆起了很重要的作用。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So one questions whether there is security at all...
[/font][font=宋体]所以一个人问究竟是否存在着安全[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in relationship?
...[/font][font=宋体]关系中的安全？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We want it.
[/font][font=宋体]我们都想希望如此。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We think it is absolutely necessary, but is there?
[/font][font=宋体]我们觉得这种安全是绝对必要的，但它真的存在么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please ask yourself.
[/font][font=宋体]请问问你们自己。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Security means permanency...
[/font][font=宋体]安全意味着永恒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and is there anything in life permanent?
...[/font][font=宋体]生命中有什么是永恒的么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Death is always there, but let's leave death alone for the moment.
[/font][font=宋体]死亡总会来临，但让我们在此刻忘掉了死亡。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is there anything permanent in life?
[/font][font=宋体]生命中有什么是永恒的吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We want to have something permanent.
[/font][font=宋体]我们希望事物是永恒的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Apparently religious people say, god is permanent.
[/font][font=宋体]很明显，宗教人士会说上帝是永恒的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That's a marvellous invention but it has very little meaning.
[/font][font=宋体]这是一个美妙的发明但它没什么意义。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we are seeking in relationship security and permanency.
[/font][font=宋体]我们寻求关系中的安全与永恒。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That very concept...
[/font][font=宋体]正是这个观念[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...please listen to this for a minute...
...[/font][font=宋体]请认真听一下[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that very concept of demanding security and permanency...
...[/font][font=宋体]这个希望安全与永恒的观念本身[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is translated as attachment.
...[/font][font=宋体]就是依赖。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So there is deep attachment to another.
[/font][font=宋体]所以才有了对他人的深深依赖。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It may be for a month, for a week, or for fifty years.
[/font][font=宋体]依赖可能存在一个月，一个星期，或者[/font][font=Times New Roman]50[/font][font=宋体]年。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And during this state of attachment...
[/font][font=宋体]在这种依赖的情况下[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there is all the conflict of jealousy...
...[/font][font=宋体]也就有了嫉妒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...suspicion, fear, gain and loss, you know.
...[/font][font=宋体]怀疑，恐惧，拥有和失去的种种冲突，你知道的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You know all this, don't you?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白这些，不是吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the demand in relationship...
[/font][font=宋体]所以希望在关系中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to have a sense of permanent continuity...
...[/font][font=宋体]有永远持续下去的感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in which there is security...
...[/font][font=宋体]其中有着安全[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...leads to attachment...
...[/font][font=宋体]这也就造成了依赖[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and all the complexity of attachment.
...[/font][font=宋体]以及所有依赖的种种体现。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If one sees that, perceives the fact of that...
[/font][font=宋体]如果一个人看到这一点，察觉到这个事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Perceiving it...
[/font][font=宋体]察觉它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as you perceive the tree and you don't, unless you are blind...
...[/font][font=宋体]就像你观察一棵树，除非你失明[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you don't go against it, knock yourself.
...[/font][font=宋体]你不要抵触它，自己体会一下。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So if you see this fact that the demand in relationship...
[/font][font=宋体]所以如果你看到事实是希望关系能够永恒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...for permanency and security which inevitably leads to a great deal...
...[/font][font=宋体]希望关系安全，这会不可避免的导致大量[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...of conflict and attachment, fear and so on...
[/font][font=宋体]冲突以及依赖、恐惧等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then that very perception burns away...
...[/font][font=宋体]那么这种觉察本身便能去祛除[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the demand for security.
...[/font][font=宋体]对于安全的渴望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is this clear, this question?
[/font][font=宋体]这个问题清楚了么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That...
[/font][font=宋体]然后[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...at the moment when we think in terms of time...
...[/font][font=宋体]在某种时刻，我们按照时间去思考[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a sense of continuity...
...[/font][font=宋体]一种持续的感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then intensity, clarity...
...[/font][font=宋体]热情，清澈[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the feeling of wholeness disappears.
...[/font][font=宋体]以及完整的感觉也就会消失殆尽。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if you captured all this?
[/font][font=宋体]我不知道你们都明白了这些没有？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You have listened to this, is it all nonsense?
[/font][font=宋体]你们听到了以上这些，它们是否都是胡话？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you say, what the devil are you talking about?
[/font][font=宋体]你是否会说，你究竟在说什么啊？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or is it sanity, reason, logical...
[/font][font=宋体]又或者这是清醒的、理性的、逻辑的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and if you...
...[/font][font=宋体]你是否[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if I may most respectfully ask...
...[/font][font=宋体]如果我可以最为恭敬地问[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if you see this very clearly...
...[/font][font=宋体]你是否看清楚[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the fact that we do demand in our life, in our daily living...
...[/font][font=宋体]这个事实，就是我们确实想要在我们的生命中、日常生活中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...psychologically a sense of continuity...
...[/font][font=宋体]拥有一种心理上的延续感[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a sense of security...
...[/font][font=宋体]安全感[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it must inevitably bring conflict.
...[/font][font=宋体]这必然会带来冲突[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do we see this, perceive this fact?
[/font][font=宋体]我们认识到这点了么？观察到这个事实了么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And we are saying if we perceive the truth of this...
[/font][font=宋体]我们说，如果我们观察这个事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that very perception burns away...
...[/font][font=宋体]那么这种察觉本身就能去除[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the demand for security and permanency.
...[/font][font=宋体]想要安全和永恒的欲望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Therefore then what is our relationship with each other?
[/font][font=宋体]那么，我们相互间的关系是什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Suppose the speaker or you have not this sense of security...
[/font][font=宋体]假设我或者你没有这种安全的感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and permanency, that doesn't mean anything...
[/font][font=宋体]永久的感觉，这没有任何意义[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...suppose, then what is relationship? You understand?
...[/font][font=宋体]假设如此，那么关系是什么？你明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is my wife and my husband...
[/font][font=宋体]我的妻子、我的丈夫[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or girlfriend, or boyfriend, whatever it is?
...[/font][font=宋体]我的女友或者男友，他们是什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do please ask this, think it out, let's work it out.
[/font][font=宋体]请务必问下自己，想明白，让我们解决它。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is one's relationship with another, intimate, or otherwise?
[/font][font=宋体]和另一个人，不管亲密或者正相反，这关系是什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is there just, what, a gap?
[/font][font=宋体]是不是只是，那什么，一个鸿沟？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or when there is no permanency...
[/font][font=宋体]或者当没有了永恒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...demand for permanency and security...
...[/font][font=宋体]想要永恒以及安全的欲望[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with all its complexity...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及所有这些复杂的事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is it possible a new awakening...
...[/font][font=宋体]能否出现一种新的觉醒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a new sense of what is love?
...[/font][font=宋体]一种对爱是什么的全新感觉？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Permanency and attachment, with all its pain and pleasure...
[/font][font=宋体]永恒和依赖，以及所有痛苦和快乐[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and anxiety, and fear, is not love.
...[/font][font=宋体]还有焦虑、恐惧，这都不是爱。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And in the absence of that...
[/font][font=宋体]但这些消失后[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...entirely, deeply, profoundly...
...[/font][font=宋体]完全地、深刻地、彻底地消失后[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the other is like a flower that's blooming.
...[/font][font=宋体]那另一个就会像一朵鲜花一样绽放了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]是不是？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is this possible?
[/font][font=宋体]这可能么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is this possible when you hear all this...
[/font][font=宋体]这是否可能，当你听到所有这些[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is it possible in your daily life?
...[/font][font=宋体]这在你的日常生活中是否可能？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Love is not thought...
[/font][font=宋体]爱不是思想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...desire, sensation...
...[/font][font=宋体]渴望、感官享受[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...love has totally a different quality.
...[/font][font=宋体]爱拥有完全不同的品质。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And that is totally absent when the other...
[/font][font=宋体]爱会完全消失，如果它之外的另一个[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]..security and all the rest of that, is the demand of every human being.
...[/font][font=宋体]安全以及所有其他，成为了每个人的欲望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]2nd QUESTION: What is judgement?
[/font][font=宋体]第二个问题：什么是判断？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]How is one to determine...
[/font][font=宋体]人怎样确定[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the line dividing opinion...
...[/font][font=宋体]划分对事实的看法[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the perception of fact?
...[/font][font=宋体]和对事实的觉察，这两者之间的界限？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is judgement?
[/font][font=宋体]什么是判断？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]How is one to determine the line dividing opinion...
[/font][font=宋体]人怎样确定划分观点[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the perception of fact?
...[/font][font=宋体]和觉察事实之间的界限？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It's a good question.
[/font][font=宋体]这是一个很好的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is fact, and what is opinion?
[/font][font=宋体]什么是事实，什么是观点？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And where is the dividing line between the two?
[/font][font=宋体]两者的分界线在哪里？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why do we have opinions?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么我们有着种种看法？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The meaning of that word, 'opinion', means judgement, evaluation...
[/font][font=宋体]“观点”这个词，意味着判断、评判[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...preconceived concepts, you know, the whole...
...[/font][font=宋体]事先形成的概念，你知道，所有的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...assertive dogmatic opinions that each one has.
...[/font][font=宋体]武断的、教条的观点，每个人都有。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why do we carry so many opinions?
[/font][font=宋体]我们为什么背负如此多的观点？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please enquire into this.
[/font][font=宋体]请深深思考这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why do we have opinions at all?
[/font][font=宋体]我们究竟为何有这些看法？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We have opinions about everything.
[/font][font=宋体]我们对每件事都有看法。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And apparently they are so strong...
[/font][font=宋体]显然，这些观点如此强烈[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and we think that is freedom...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们认为这是种自由[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to have a thousand opinions about everything.
...[/font][font=宋体]自由地去对每件事物拥有无数种看法。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That gives you a sense of freedom...
[/font][font=宋体]这给你一种自由的感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...at least you think one is free, independence.
...[/font][font=宋体]至少，你认为你是自由的、独立的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It's my opinion, I am right.
[/font][font=宋体]这是我的看法，我是对的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we have a thousand opinions.
[/font][font=宋体]所以我们有许多种观点。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And what are facts? What is fact?
[/font][font=宋体]但事实是什么呢？事实如何？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Fact is that which has happened. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]事实是确已发生的。对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That which has happened.
[/font][font=宋体]已经发生的事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]An incident or an accident is a fact...
[/font][font=宋体]一个意外或事故是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which took place yesterday.
...[/font][font=宋体]昨天发生的事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And fact is also what is happening now. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]事实也是现在发生着的。对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is happening now...
[/font][font=宋体]现在发生着什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You and I are sitting here having a conversation...
[/font][font=宋体]你和我坐在这里一起对话[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a dialogue, or a question and answer and so on, that's a fact.
...[/font][font=宋体]谈论、或者提问、回答等等这是个事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is not a fact is what may happen tomorrow.
[/font][font=宋体]那么什么不是事实呢，是那些明天可能发生的事。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if we are coming together in this?
[/font][font=宋体]我想知道我们是否都明白这点了？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What may happen when you leave this place and go off...
[/font][font=宋体]当你离开这个地方的时候将会发生什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Something might happen.
[/font][font=宋体]一些事可能会发生。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So fact is that which has happened...
[/font][font=宋体]所以事实是那些已经发生的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that which is happening...
...[/font][font=宋体]和那些正在发生的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and fact is not what will happen.
...[/font][font=宋体]而事实不是将要发生的事情。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That's clear.
[/font][font=宋体]这样就清楚了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What will happen is decided...
[/font][font=宋体]将要发生的事情取决于[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...by what is happening now. Right?
...[/font][font=宋体]此刻发生着的事情。对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if you see this.
[/font][font=宋体]我想知道你们是否看到了这点。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The future is in the present.
[/font][font=宋体]未来就在现在。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The future, what you are now...
[/font][font=宋体]未来，你现在是什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is the future.
...[/font][font=宋体]将来就是什么。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? Modified, but basically what you are now.
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？可能会有所改变但基本上就是你现在的样子。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the future is in the present.
[/font][font=宋体]所以未来就在此刻。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the past is also in the present.
[/font][font=宋体]过去也在此刻。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the present contains all time.
[/font][font=宋体]所以此刻包含着所有时间。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please don't play with this as a theory, it is meaningless.
[/font][font=宋体]请不要把这个当作理论，这毫无意义。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It becomes a slogan if you repeat that...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你仅仅是重复读它，它也就变成了口号[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...at least it loses its meaning.
...[/font][font=宋体]至少它失去了本来的意义。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But if you see that the past...
[/font][font=宋体]但是如果你看到过去[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has a continuity in the present...
...[/font][font=宋体]在此刻持续着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the future is the past...
...[/font][font=宋体]并且未来就是过去[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...modified in the present...
...[/font][font=宋体]在此刻经过修改[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the past modified through the present...
...[/font][font=宋体]过去经过现在的修改[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...so the present, the now, contains all time.
...[/font][font=宋体]所以现在，此刻包含着所有时间。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And if you don't change now...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你现在不改变[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you will be exactly the same tomorrow, slightly modified.
...[/font][font=宋体]你明天也将一模一样，只有微小的改变。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the future is in the present.
[/font][font=宋体]所以未来就包含在现在。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is really quite important to understand because...
[/font][font=宋体]理解这一点，非常重要，因为[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what is action?
...[/font][font=宋体]什么是行为？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I mustn't go into that, it's too complicated.
[/font][font=宋体]我不能讨论这个，它太复杂了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So why do human beings cling to opinions and not facts?
[/font][font=宋体]那么人类为什么紧紧抱持着观点而不是事实本身？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You can conclude from a fact an opinion.
[/font][font=宋体]你可以从事实推断出一个观点。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]A fact can be made into an opinion...
[/font][font=宋体]一个事实可以变为一个观念[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but the opinion is not the fact.
...[/font][font=宋体]但观念不是事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I may have an accident in a car...
[/font][font=宋体]我可能出了场车祸[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and you come along and see it...
...[/font][font=宋体]你过来看到这个事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and have umpteen opinions about it...
...[/font][font=宋体]产生了很多相关看法[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but the fact is I have an accident.
...[/font][font=宋体]但事实是我出了场车祸。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So why do we have opinions at all...
[/font][font=宋体]所以我们究竟为何会产生看法[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...about government, about religion...
...[/font][font=宋体]关于政府，关于宗教[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...about this, about that, about literature, about poems, you follow?
...[/font][font=宋体]关于这个，关于那个，关于文学、诗歌，你明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why? Is it a kind of game?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么？这是场游戏么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is it a kind of wastage of energy?
[/font][font=宋体]是不是一种能量的浪费？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is it another form of chattering?
[/font][font=宋体]还是另一种形式的喋喋不休？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Which is all a waste of time, waste of energy.
[/font][font=宋体]这都是一种时间、能量的浪费。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whereas if you stick to facts, which is, what has happened...
[/font][font=宋体]然而如果你紧跟事实，也就是那些已经发生的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what is happening, that's only facts.
...[/font][font=宋体]正在发生的，这些仅有的事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am looking at the tree. That's a fact.
[/font][font=宋体]我正观察着这棵树。这是事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why do I have to have an opinion about that?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么我要对此产生看法？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If I am a lumber merchant, thank god, I am not...
[/font][font=宋体]如果我是个木材商人，感谢上帝，我不是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and I say that's a valuable tree, let's cut it down...
...[/font][font=宋体]我会说这棵树值钱，我们砍掉它吧[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that's a different matter.
...[/font][font=宋体]这就是另一回事了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But to have constant opinions about everything...
[/font][font=宋体]但对每件事物都不断抱有看法[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...seems to one such a stupid waste of energy and time...
...[/font][font=宋体]看起来是件愚蠢的浪费时间、精力的事[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you know, it is so useless.
...[/font][font=宋体]你知道，它是多么没有意义。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And judgement, the question is: what is judgement?
[/font][font=宋体]回到判断，问题是：什么是判断？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]A judge passes a sentence...
[/font][font=宋体]一个法官给出一个审判[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...on somebody, criminal, or some innocent man.
...[/font][font=宋体]对于某人，有罪或者无辜的人。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There was a judge once...
[/font][font=宋体]曾经有一个法官[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...whom the speaker happened to know.
...[/font][font=宋体]讲话者碰巧认识他。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]He was high up in law and became a judge.
[/font][font=宋体]他精于法律所以成为了法官。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And one morning after many years of judgement, he said...
[/font][font=宋体]在从事了多年的判决工作后，有一天早上，他说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...'What am I judging? What is truth?
...[/font][font=宋体]“我在裁决什么？什么是真相？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am passing a judgement about everything...
[/font][font=宋体]我对每件事都给出判决[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...according to precedence and so on, what is truth?
...[/font][font=宋体]根据之前的判例等等，可什么是真相？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Unless I find that out judgement has no meaning.'
[/font][font=宋体]除非我找到真相否则判决没有意义。”[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So as was customary in India in those days...
[/font][font=宋体]按照印度那时的传统[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...about fifty-eight years ago...
...[/font][font=宋体]大概在[/font][font=Times New Roman]58[/font][font=宋体]年之前[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...he called his family and said...
...[/font][font=宋体]他召集了他的家人说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]'I am going to withdraw from the world...
[/font][font=宋体]“我打算退出社会[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...go off into the forest, into some distant village...
...[/font][font=宋体]去森林之中，去遥远的村子中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...meditate and find out.'
...[/font][font=宋体]沉思并找到答案。”[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are telling you the facts of it, not opinions about it.
[/font][font=宋体]我们正在告诉你有关它的事实而非对它的看法。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]After twenty years or forty years - I have forgotten the exact time...
20[/font][font=宋体]年或者[/font][font=Times New Roman]40[/font][font=宋体]年之后[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]我已经忘了确切的时间[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...somebody brought him to listen to one of the talks...
...[/font][font=宋体]有人带他去听一次讲话[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that K was giving...
...K[/font][font=宋体]的讲话[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and he came to see the speaker afterwards, and he said...
...[/font][font=宋体]他之后去见了讲话者，然后他说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...'You know, what I have been doing all these forty years?
...[/font][font=宋体]“你知道么，我这四十年都做了什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I started out to find truth...
[/font][font=宋体]我本想找到真相[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...meditated, did all kinds of things...
...[/font][font=宋体]沉思，做所有类似的事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and I see now that I have been mesmerising myself.
...[/font][font=宋体]然后我发现原来我是在催眠自己。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I have been living an illusion.'
[/font][font=宋体]我生活在幻想之中。”[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? You understand all this?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？你们明白这些么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]For an old man...
[/font][font=宋体]对于一个老人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to acknowledge such a statement and say...
...[/font][font=宋体]能承认这番话，并说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...'That's a fact', that needs a great deal of perception.
...[/font][font=宋体]“这就是事实”，这需要大量的觉察。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So, what is judgement, what is justice?
[/font][font=宋体]所以，什么是判断，什么是公正？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is there justice in the world?
[/font][font=宋体]世界上有公正存在么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please ask this question of yourself.
[/font][font=宋体]请问你自己这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is there justice in the world?
[/font][font=宋体]这世上有公正存在么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are born in a good family...
[/font][font=宋体]你在一个良好的家庭出生[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...money, education...
...[/font][font=宋体]金钱、教育[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...prosperity, success...
...[/font][font=宋体]繁荣、成功[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the other lives in a small ghetto...
...[/font][font=宋体]而其他人生活在狭小的贫民窟[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...no future except poverty, constant struggle. Right?
...[/font][font=宋体]没有未来，只有贫穷，不断的挣扎。对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Where is justice in that?
[/font][font=宋体]这其中的公正在哪儿？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The Indians have a very good explanation, the Hindus...
[/font][font=宋体]在印度又一个很好的解释，印度人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is karma.
...[/font][font=宋体]称其为业。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Don't - please, that word 'karma' means to act.
[/font][font=宋体]请不要这样，“业”这个词意味着行动。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not all these things given to it.
[/font][font=宋体]而不是赋予它的那些意思。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]To act rightly, now.
[/font][font=宋体]现在，就正确地行动。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because if you act rightly now, the future is right.
[/font][font=宋体]因为如果你现在做正确的事，未来就会正确。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So, or if you act mischievously now...
[/font][font=宋体]所以，相反你现在做有害的事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you pay for it next day or next life.
...[/font][font=宋体]你会在第二天或者来世付出代价。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now, is there justice in the world?
[/font][font=宋体]那，世界上有公正么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]A crook can employ a clever lawyer...
[/font][font=宋体]一个骗子可以雇一位聪明的律师[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and get away with it.
...[/font][font=宋体]而得以逃脱罪名。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is happening everyday.
[/font][font=宋体]这样的事每天都在发生。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are clever, I am not.
[/font][font=宋体]你很聪明，而我不是。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are beautiful, I am not.
[/font][font=宋体]你很漂亮，而我不是。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are extraordinarily alive, I am not.
[/font][font=宋体]你极其富有活力，而我不是。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]These are facts.
[/font][font=宋体]这就是事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So, where is there justice?
[/font][font=宋体]那么，公平在哪里？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is so-called legal justice...
[/font][font=宋体]存在着所谓法律的公正[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is totally different from actual justice.
...[/font][font=宋体]这和真实的公正完全不是一回事。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Justice can only be found...
[/font][font=宋体]只有有了自由和慈悲[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...where there is freedom and compassion.
...[/font][font=宋体]才能找到公正。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Without that freedom and compassion...
[/font][font=宋体]没有那自由和慈悲[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which in its movement is intelligence...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们的运作中就有智慧[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there is justice, otherwise there is no justice in the world.
...[/font][font=宋体]那里有公平，否则世界上就没有公平。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is, please, not an opinion, not a theory...
[/font][font=宋体]请注意，这不是一个观念，不是一个理论[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but when you have this feeling of great compassion...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是当你拥有如此巨大的慈悲之心时[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is quite a deep question...
...[/font][font=宋体]这是一个相当深奥的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then there is in that compassion, there is justice.
...[/font][font=宋体]然后在那慈悲之中，就有了公正。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]3rd QUESTION: There are many people who have considerable difficulty...
[/font][font=宋体]第三个问题：有很多人遇到相当大的困难[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with the fact of homosexuality.
...[/font][font=宋体]来面对同性恋的事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Teachers for centuries have avoided this enquiry.
[/font][font=宋体]老师们几个世纪以来都逃避这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Could you, please, even briefly, put some light on this question?
[/font][font=宋体]那么，请你能否至少简单地，对于这个问题给出一些启示？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I have travelled two thousand miles to ask this question.
[/font][font=宋体]我旅行了两千多英里来问这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There are many people who have considerable difficulties...
[/font][font=宋体]有很多人遇到相当大的困难[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with the fact of homosexuality.
...[/font][font=宋体]来面对同性恋的事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Teachers for centuries have avoided this question.
[/font][font=宋体]老师们几个世纪以来都逃避这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Could you please, even briefly, put some... answer this question?
[/font][font=宋体]那么，请你能否至少简单地，对于这个问题给出一些启示？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I have travelled two thousand years... miles (laughter)...
[/font][font=宋体]我旅行了两千多年[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][font=宋体]英里（笑声）[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to ask this question?
...[/font][font=宋体]来问这个问题？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Sorry, quite right.
[/font][font=宋体]抱歉，一点没错。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I have travelled two thousand years!
[/font][font=宋体]我旅行了两千年！[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This has been a question...
[/font][font=宋体]这已经是一个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...for thousands and thousands and thousands of years.
...[/font][font=宋体]存在了一个千年又一个千年。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It isn't something new.
[/font][font=宋体]它不是什么新鲜事。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are not taking sides in this matter.
[/font][font=宋体]我们不是在讨论这件事的对错。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We don't condemn it or approve it or disapprove it.
[/font][font=宋体]我们不责备它、肯定它或否定它。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]These are facts. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]这些是事实，对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]As heterosexuality is a fact.
[/font][font=宋体]就好像异性恋是事实一样。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Homosexuality exists in the world...
[/font][font=宋体]同性恋存在于世上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in different parts of the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]在世界的不同地区[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...very common...
...[/font][font=宋体]这很寻常[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in other parts of the world it is practically unknown.
...[/font][font=宋体]而在世界的另外一些地区这几乎没有被意识到。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So how do you answer this question? What is the question?
[/font][font=宋体]所以你要怎么回答这个问题？这个问题是什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why do we make it into such an enormous problem?
[/font][font=宋体]我们为什么使它成为了一个巨大的问题？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Apparently we don't make...
[/font][font=宋体]很显然，我们没有令[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...heterosexuality a problem at all...
...[/font][font=宋体]异性恋成为一个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but we make this into a problem, why?
...[/font][font=宋体]但我们令同性恋成为了问题，为什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is a fact.
[/font][font=宋体]这是一个事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So should we enquire into this question...
[/font][font=宋体]我们应该探询这个问题么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...into heterosexuality and homosexuality differently?
...[/font][font=宋体]以不同的方式来探讨异性恋和同性恋？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not condemn one or the other...
[/font][font=宋体]不谴责其中的任何一个[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or approve one and deny the other...
...[/font][font=宋体]不赞成一个而否定另一个[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but enquire why sexuality, both...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是想为什么这两种性特征[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has become so colossally important.
...[/font][font=宋体]变得如此重要。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why? You answer this question.
[/font][font=宋体]为什么？你们回答这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]On television, in magazines...
[/font][font=宋体]电视上，杂志上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...every bestseller...
...[/font][font=宋体]所有畅销书[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has this element in it...
...[/font][font=宋体]都有性的成分[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in detail...
...[/font][font=宋体]细节的描述[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...every day.
...[/font][font=宋体]每天都有。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are following? I don't have to tell you all this.
[/font][font=宋体]你们跟上了么？我没必要告诉你们这些。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Everyday it is emphasised...
[/font][font=宋体]每天都强调着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...sexuality - I am not talking about homo- or heterosexuality...
...[/font][font=宋体]性行为[/font][font=Times New Roman]- [/font][font=宋体]我不是在讨论异性恋或者同性恋[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...general sexuality.
...[/font][font=宋体]而是广义的性行为。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why have human beings given such great importance to this?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么人类对此给予了巨大重视？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And if it is not important you feel there is something wrong with you...
[/font][font=宋体]如果这并不重要，你就觉得自己好像出了问题一样[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that you are neurotic, that you have to fulfil...
...[/font][font=宋体]你觉得自己神经质，觉得你需要满足[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you know, dozens and dozens of explanations by the psychologists...
...[/font][font=宋体]你知道，心理学家给出了很多很多的解释[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...by the experts, by the sexual analysts.
...[/font][font=宋体]专家和性分析学家也做了很多解释。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why? Is it pleasure?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么？这是不是欢愉？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Remembrance in the pictures of sexuality?
[/font][font=宋体]性爱场面的回忆？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why has man given throughout the ages...
[/font][font=宋体]为什么人类世世代代[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...such extraordinary importance to this?
[/font][font=宋体]给它赋予了极大的重要性？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you are deprived of it you feel something terrible has happened.
[/font][font=宋体]如果你被剥夺了性，你会觉得有可怕的事情发生了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you can voluntarily say, I won't have any...
[/font][font=宋体]你可以自愿地说，我不要性[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I will become a celibate, and join a monastery...
...[/font][font=宋体]我要成为独身者，去加入一个修道院[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or not join a monastery, or remain a celibate...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者不去加入修道院，而保持着独身[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with all the problems of celibacy. Right?
...[/font][font=宋体]带着所有独身的问题。对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what is the question?
[/font][font=宋体]那么问题是什么呢？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why has this thing...
[/font][font=宋体]为什么这件事[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...been given such a place in life?
...[/font][font=宋体]在生活中被赋予了如此地位？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is part of life. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]它是生活的一部分。对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Part of walking, seeing, running...
[/font][font=宋体]走路、观察、跑步[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...laughing, tears - it is part of life.
...[/font][font=宋体]欢笑、泪水[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]这都是生活的一部分。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But why has this one thing taken importance?
[/font][font=宋体]但为什么单单性如此重要？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And it is being encouraged very carefully.
[/font][font=宋体]并且这件事被十分小心地鼓励着。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]By the entertaining industry.
[/font][font=宋体]被娱乐产业。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please go into all this.
[/font][font=宋体]请认真思考这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the psychologists have also encouraged this: fulfil.
[/font][font=宋体]并且所有的心理学家也都如此鼓励：去满足性。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And some mothers feel there is something wrong...
[/font][font=宋体]有些母亲觉得一些事不对头[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with their daughter or son who doesn't have a boy- or girlfriend...
...[/font][font=宋体]譬如她们的女儿或儿子没有男女朋友[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...after the age of twelve, thirteen.
...[/font][font=宋体]在他们十二、三岁之后。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is all what is happening in the world...
[/font][font=宋体]这都是发生在世上的事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...especially in this country...
...[/font][font=宋体]尤其在这个国家[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]In the traditional countries like India, and other countries...
[/font][font=宋体]在传统的国家譬如印度或其他国家[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there still...
...[/font][font=宋体]人们仍会[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...they say, please wait, don't indulge...
...[/font][font=宋体]说，请等等，不要纵欲[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...wait until you are twenty or twenty two, or whatever it is.
...[/font][font=宋体]等到你[/font][font=Times New Roman]20[/font][font=宋体]岁或[/font][font=Times New Roman]22[/font][font=宋体]岁，不管究竟几岁。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So seeing all this...
[/font][font=宋体]那么看到这些[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what does one learn from all this?
...[/font][font=宋体]人们从中学到了什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Learn, not moral...
[/font][font=宋体]不是学到道德[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not morality, not celibacy and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是美德、不是独身主义等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but what does one learn from all this?
...[/font][font=宋体]而是人们从中懂得了什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Come on, sirs!
[/font][font=宋体]想一想，先生们！[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Religions throughout the world, the ancient...
[/font][font=宋体]全世界的宗教，古老的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I won't call them the very ancient...
...[/font][font=宋体]我不想称它们非常古老[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the Hindus, the Buddhists, Christianity...
...[/font][font=宋体]印度教徒，佛教徒，基督教徒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...have always said, be a celibate...
...[/font][font=宋体]都总是讲，做一个独身者[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if you want to follow God be a celibate.
...[/font][font=宋体]如果你想追随上帝，那么做一个独身者。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why?
[/font][font=宋体]为什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And they take vows of celibacy...
[/font][font=宋体]于是他们发誓要独身[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...join monasteries, become a monk...
...[/font][font=宋体]加入修道院，成为一个修道士[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a wandering monk, as they do in India...
...[/font][font=宋体]一个游方僧人，就像在印度那样[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and go through tortures with this.
...[/font][font=宋体]并承受着痛苦的折磨。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]They have taken a vow, they must stick to it.
[/font][font=宋体]他们发了誓，他们得遵守誓言。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I don't know why they take a vow first...
[/font][font=宋体]我不明白他们为什么要先发誓[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but once you have taken a vow...
...[/font][font=宋体]但你一旦发过誓[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you have to follow that...
...[/font][font=宋体]你就要遵守誓言[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which you have accepted.
...[/font][font=宋体]这个你已经接受的誓言。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But psychologically, inwardly, the glands...
[/font][font=宋体]但从心理上看，从内心上看，各个器官[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...everything is functioning, and you have a terrible time.
...[/font][font=宋体]还是照常工作，所以你就有了痛苦。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The speaker has talked to many, many of them.
[/font][font=宋体]我和很多很多这样的人交谈过。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]They go through hell.
[/font][font=宋体]他们经历了地狱般的生活。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Religion has done that.
[/font][font=宋体]这都是宗教造成的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You know all this, don't you?
[/font][font=宋体]你们都知道这些，是不是？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And one asks...
[/font][font=宋体]所以有人问[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...why has man...
...[/font][font=宋体]为什么人类[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...said to himself: to achieve the most sublime...
...[/font][font=宋体]对自己说：想要达到至高无上的境界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you must be a celibate?
...[/font][font=宋体]你就必须独身？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That is, you must torture yourself...
[/font][font=宋体]也就是，你必须折磨你自己[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...go through agonies...
...[/font][font=宋体]经历诸多痛苦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and then you will be nearer god.
...[/font][font=宋体]你才会更接近上帝。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It seems so childish, the whole thing. Sorry!
[/font][font=宋体]这看起来很幼稚，所有这些。抱歉！[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I have met many, many sannyasis, in India, monks.
[/font][font=宋体]我见过太多太多遁世者，在印度，僧侣。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I won't go into the details of it...
[/font][font=宋体]我不想描述相关细节[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...they have tortured themselves in every way.
...[/font][font=宋体]他们以各种方式折磨着自己。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because the popular opinion is that...
[/font][font=宋体]因为主流观念认为[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to reach god, to reach the highest...
...[/font][font=宋体]想要触到上帝，触及至高无上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you must live a life of absolute abstinence.
...[/font][font=宋体]你就必须过一种绝对禁欲的生活。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Which means...
[/font][font=宋体]这意味着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...human beings have never understood what is austerity.
...[/font][font=宋体]人类从未明白什么是苦行。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]May we go into that? You are not bored with all this?
[/font][font=宋体]我们要不要讨论这个问题？你们对这些不感到无聊吧？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I don't mind if you are bored.
[/font][font=宋体]我不介意你们感到无聊。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Probably you don't want to go into all this...
[/font][font=宋体]可能你们不想讨论这个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it may disturb you very much.
...[/font][font=宋体]这可能会令你十分不适。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please don't be disturbed because we are dealing with facts.
[/font][font=宋体]请不要觉得这是个困扰，因为我们在面对事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is austerity?
[/font][font=宋体]什么是苦行？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You know, the root meaning of that word...
[/font][font=宋体]你知道，这个词的根本意思[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as we explained the other day...
...[/font][font=宋体]就如我们那天解释的一样[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be austere means to have, in Greek...
...[/font][font=宋体]在希腊语中，苦行意味着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a dry mouth...
...[/font][font=宋体]口干舌燥[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not from drinks...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是不喝水[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but a dry mouth, which is to be harsh...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是有一张口渴的嘴，那意味着变得严酷[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be sharp...
...[/font][font=宋体]敏锐[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be dry.
...[/font][font=宋体]干燥。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And so gradually the human being...
[/font][font=宋体]所以人们逐渐地[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has this idea it must be austere...
...[/font][font=宋体]有了必须要苦行的想法[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and has made himself into ashes.
...[/font][font=宋体]于是让自己化为了灰烬。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you are forcing yourself day after day...
[/font][font=宋体]当你一天天强迫自己[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...month after month, year after year...
...[/font][font=宋体]月复一月，年复一年[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...driving yourself, you end up...
...[/font][font=宋体]驱使自己，你最终变成了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as a dry human being.
...[/font][font=宋体]成为一个干枯的人。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And if you indulge also in the other direction...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你也在另一个方向放纵[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you have the same problem.
...[/font][font=宋体]你就面临同样的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So can one live a life...
[/font][font=宋体]于是一个人能否过一种生活[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...without conflict?
...[/font][font=宋体]没有冲突的生活？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Neither extremes...
[/font][font=宋体]不要走任何一种极端[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which imply conflict...
...[/font][font=宋体]那意味着冲突[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the sensory demands...
...[/font][font=宋体]感官欲望[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the suppression of sensory demands.
...[/font][font=宋体]和压抑感官欲望之间的冲突。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Can one live without a single battle...
[/font][font=宋体]人能不能活着而没有在两者之间的斗争[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...effort, struggle between the two?
...[/font][font=宋体]没有努力、矛盾的挣扎？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That requires a great deal of enquiry...
[/font][font=宋体]我们需要深入地去质疑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...into the whole problem of desire...
...[/font][font=宋体]整个问题，有关欲望[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...will, wish...
...[/font][font=宋体]意志、愿望[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the biological urges.
...[/font][font=宋体]以及生理上的冲动。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you want to go on with this?
[/font][font=宋体]你们想要讨论这个问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is a very good question at the end - I just saw it!
[/font][font=宋体]这真是一个很好的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]我正好看到了它！[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]How is one to live on this earth...
[/font][font=宋体]一个人怎样在地球上生活[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...please listen to it...
...[/font][font=宋体]请听清[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...how is one to live on this earth...
...[/font][font=宋体]一个人怎样在地球上生活[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...without harm or destruction to its beauty...
...[/font][font=宋体]没有对地球的美的伤害和破坏[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...without bringing suffering and death to others?
...[/font][font=宋体]不给他人带来痛苦和死亡？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]How is one to live on this earth...
[/font][font=宋体]一个人怎样在地球上生活[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...without harm or destruction to its beauty...
...[/font][font=宋体]没有对地球的美的伤害和破坏[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to the beauty of the earth...
...[/font][font=宋体]对世上的美好事物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...without bringing suffering and death to others?
...[/font][font=宋体]没有给他人带来痛苦或死亡？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But we must finish our question which...
[/font][font=宋体]但我们必须先结束我们的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we were talking about previously.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们之前所讨论的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What time is it, sir?
[/font][font=宋体]几点了，先生？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Could we bear another quarter of an hour?
[/font][font=宋体]我们能否再忍受一刻钟？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Are you working the same as the speaker is working...
[/font][font=宋体]你现在正和我一起工作吗[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or are you just listening?
...[/font][font=宋体]还是你仅仅是在听？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is your brain as active, working...
[/font][font=宋体]你的大脑是在运转、工作[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...enquiring, doubting...
...[/font][font=宋体]询问、质疑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...intense to find out...
...[/font][font=宋体]强烈地想找出[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a way of living something totally different?
...[/font][font=宋体]一种生活方式，完全不同的方式吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We were saying, to live a life without conflict...
[/font][font=宋体]我们说的是，一种没有冲突的生活[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...requires an investigation into the whole question of desire...
...[/font][font=宋体]需要对整个有关欲望的问题深入研究[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is a very, very complex problem.
...[/font][font=宋体]这是个非常非常复杂的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you really want to go into all that?
[/font][font=宋体]你们真的想探究这些？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]No, I am not asking out of encouragement...
[/font][font=宋体]不，我不是出于鼓励才这么问的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I am just asking.
...[/font][font=宋体]我只是在问。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is a very serious thing that we are undertaking.
[/font][font=宋体]我们正在讨论一件非常严肃的事情。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is no good just merely listening and repeating...
[/font][font=宋体]如果仅仅是听从并重复，那将没有任何益处[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that has no meaning at all.
...[/font][font=宋体]没有任何意义。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But seeing what the facts are in this world...
[/font][font=宋体]但看到存在于世界的事实是什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what is actually taking place in the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]世上真正发生了什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not only in this country but in every country...
...[/font][font=宋体]不仅仅在这个国家还有其他任何国家[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in so-called every culture.
...[/font][font=宋体]在每种所谓的文化之中。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And conflict in man is increasing more and more and more...
[/font][font=宋体]人类的冲突变得越来越多[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not less and less.
...[/font][font=宋体]而不是越来越少。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Man means woman and man...
[/font][font=宋体]人意味着男人和女人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...so please don't get excited about it...
...[/font][font=宋体]所以对此不要感到惊讶[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...why don't I talk about women.
...[/font][font=宋体]为何我没有提及女人。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Unless one understands very deeply the movement of desire...
[/font][font=宋体]除非一个人深深地明白欲望的运作[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not the description of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]而不是欲望的描述[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not the explanation of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]也不是对欲望的解释[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but to enquire why desire becomes so extraordinarily important...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是去探询欲望为什么变得如此超乎寻常的重要[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...desire to become successful, desire to have money...
...[/font][font=宋体]希望成功的欲望，拥有金钱的欲望[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...desire for sex, for excitement, for amusement...
...[/font][font=宋体]性的欲望，兴奋、娱乐的欲望[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you follow?..
...[/font][font=宋体]你们跟上了吗？[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the tremendous urge and the speed of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]欲望巨大的驱动力以及它运转的速度[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the demand for its fulfilment.
...[/font][font=宋体]还有想要实现欲望本身的愿望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Again religions have said, you must suppress desire...
[/font][font=宋体]再回到宗教，它会说，你必须压制欲望[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which means another battle, another conflict, another torture.
...[/font][font=宋体]这也就意味着另一种争斗[/font][font=Times New Roman],[/font][font=宋体]另一种冲突[/font][font=Times New Roman],[/font][font=宋体]另一种折磨的产生[/font][font=Times New Roman].[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You know, religion has played havoc with human beings.
[/font][font=宋体]你知道[/font][font=Times New Roman],[/font][font=宋体]宗教曾给人类带来巨大的破坏。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And they are still doing it...
[/font][font=宋体]而且它也依然如此[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not only in the Christian world...
...[/font][font=宋体]不仅仅在基督教的世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but in the whole world...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是在整个世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the Islamic world, look what they are doing in Iran and Iraq.
...[/font][font=宋体]在伊斯兰世界，看看宗教在伊朗和伊拉克之间做了什么。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Don't talk about it!
[/font][font=宋体]不要谈论那些了！[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what is desire?
[/font][font=宋体]那么什么是欲望？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please understand we are not trying to suppress it...
[/font][font=宋体]请一定要清楚我们不是在压制它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or encourage it, but it is a fact.
...[/font][font=宋体]或者鼓励它，而是它是一个事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The fact is that we are driven by desire.
[/font][font=宋体]事实就是我们被欲望驱使。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And to thwart it is pain.
[/font][font=宋体]抗衡就会痛苦。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]A sense of not being able to fulfil.
[/font][font=宋体]一种不能满足的感觉。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So at any cost, at any price we want the fulfilment of desire.
[/font][font=宋体]所以不论以任何代价，我们都要满足欲望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You may say, 'Desire for god...
[/font][font=宋体]你可能会说，“对于上帝的渴求[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...desire for understanding' - it is still desire.
...[/font][font=宋体]想要了解的欲望”[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]这还是欲望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Gosh, must I go into all this?
[/font][font=宋体]天，我必须深入所有这些么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you look at a tree...
[/font][font=宋体]当你看着一棵树[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the beauty of the tree...
...[/font][font=宋体]观看树的美[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the light upon the leaf...
...[/font][font=宋体]照在树叶上的阳光[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the mountains beyond it, the valleys...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及远处的山脉、峡谷[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the shades and the dappled light...
...[/font][font=宋体]光的阴影与斑驳[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and see that enormous beauty of the earth...
...[/font][font=宋体]看到这世上巨大的美[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that is sensation.
...[/font][font=宋体]这叫做感受。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I won't go into the question, is beauty a sensation...
[/font][font=宋体]我不想讨论这个问题，美是不是感官感受[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am not going into that, that's another problem.
[/font][font=宋体]我不想谈它，这是另一个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]No, not a problem, that is quite another thing...
[/font][font=宋体]不，不是一个问题，它是另一件事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...very interesting if you go into it: is beauty a sensation?
...[/font][font=宋体]如果你深入探究，它将一件非常有趣的事情：美是感官感受吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you see all that, the earth and its beauty...
[/font][font=宋体]当你观察到这些，世界及它的美[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is a sensation.
...[/font][font=宋体]这是感受。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Seeing with the optical eyes, with the eyes...
[/font][font=宋体]用光学的视觉去看，用眼睛去看[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the seeing, the very seeing arouses the sensations.
...[/font][font=宋体]这种看到，这种观察本身便唤起了感受。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Seeing a beautiful woman or a man...
[/font][font=宋体]看到一个漂亮的女人或男人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...arouses various kinds of sensations.
...[/font][font=宋体]唤起了很多种感受。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then that sensation is correct, isn't it?
Normal, healthy, natural...
[/font][font=宋体]这种感受是正确的，不是么？正常的、健康的、自然的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...unless one is paralysed, blind, and deaf, and dumb.
...[/font][font=宋体]除非一个人瘫痪了，失明、失聪、哑掉。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That is, when one is sensitive...
[/font][font=宋体]也就是，当一个人敏感的时候[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...one is acutely aware of all this.
...[/font][font=宋体]他就能精确地觉察到这些。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And you see this.
[/font][font=宋体]你们看到了这些。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is perception of all this.
[/font][font=宋体]有了对所有这些的觉察。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then what takes place?
[/font][font=宋体]然后什么发生了？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are looking at those hills.
[/font][font=宋体]你看着这些山脉。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The seeing of those hills...
[/font][font=宋体]这些山脉的景象[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...arouses certain sensations.
...[/font][font=宋体]唤起了某种感受。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then what is the next step to that?
[/font][font=宋体]这之后下一步是什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Enquire, please, look at it.
[/font][font=宋体]问问看，真的，认真想。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Doesn't then thought come in and say...
[/font][font=宋体]思想不就产生出来了么，并说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what a beautiful thing that is?
...[/font][font=宋体]这是种多么美好的事物？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Thought then creates an image...
[/font][font=宋体]思想建立了一种印象[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...out of that sensation.
...[/font][font=宋体]从那感受中产生了意象。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am not saying anything that is not factual...
[/font][font=宋体]我没有谈论任何不真实的事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...this is not supposition or fictitious.
...[/font][font=宋体]这不是推测的或者虚构的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Sensation - contact, sensation...
[/font][font=宋体]感受[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]联系，感知[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then thought makes an image of that sensation.
...[/font][font=宋体]然后思想就制造了那感受的映像。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? Are you following?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？你们跟上了么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When thought makes an image out of that sensation...
[/font][font=宋体]当思想从原本的感知制造出一个映像时[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then desire is born.
...[/font][font=宋体]欲望就产生了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Sensation is not desire.
[/font][font=宋体]感受不是欲望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Sensation is sensation.
[/font][font=宋体]感知就是感知。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But when thought comes and says, yes, what a lovely thing that is...
[/font][font=宋体]但思想产生并说，啊，这是多么美好的事物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what a lovely dress that is...
...[/font][font=宋体]多么可爱的衣裙[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...nice shirt - being a man, nice shirt...
...[/font][font=宋体]漂亮的衬衫[/font][font=Times New Roman]-[/font][font=宋体]作为一个男人，漂亮的衬衫[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or a woman says, nice dress.
...[/font][font=宋体]或者一个女人说，漂亮的衣裙。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Goes inside, touches it, feels it...
[/font][font=宋体]再往深些，触摸它，感觉它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...puts it on, and then thought says...
...[/font][font=宋体]穿在身上，然后思想说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...how beautiful I look.
...[/font][font=宋体]我多么漂亮。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That's a nice shirt on me.
[/font][font=宋体]我穿着一件漂亮的衬衫。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then desire is born. You understand this?
[/font][font=宋体]然后欲望产生了。你们明白这点么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is a fact.
[/font][font=宋体]这就是事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is not something theoretical, it is a fact.
[/font][font=宋体]这不是什么理论的东西，这就是事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now the question is, if you go into it much deeper...
[/font][font=宋体]现在的问题是，如果你深入进去[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...sensation...
...[/font][font=宋体]感受[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...seeing a beautiful painting...
...[/font][font=宋体]看到一幅美丽的油画[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...beautifully framed and beautifully lit, marvellous...
...[/font][font=宋体]华丽的相框以及漂亮的光照着，棒极了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that is a sensation.
...[/font][font=宋体]这是感受。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then the thought says, I wish I had that in my room.
[/font][font=宋体]然后思想说，我希望它挂在我的屋里。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then when the thought...
[/font][font=宋体]于是当思想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...assumes the authority over sensation desire is born.
...[/font][font=宋体]承担起超越感知的权利，欲望就产生了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now the question is...
[/font][font=宋体]现在的问题是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...can sensation and thought be kept apart?
...[/font][font=宋体]感受和思想能否分离？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Go into this.
[/font][font=宋体]认真想想。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not through will, through compulsion, effort and all that...
[/font][font=宋体]不是通过意志、强迫、努力和其他什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we are asking a very serious and very simple question.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们正在问一个非常严肃非常简单的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Sensation is natural, thought is also somewhat natural...
[/font][font=宋体]感受是自然的，思想也可以说是自然的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with its image.
...[/font][font=宋体]伴随着映像。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That's what happens.
[/font][font=宋体]这就是发生的一切。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now can there be a gap, an interval, a hiatus...
[/font][font=宋体]那么是否有一道鸿沟，或者间隔、空隙[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...so that sensation and thought are separate?
...[/font][font=宋体]以至于感受和思想是分离的？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]See what is implied in it.
[/font][font=宋体]想想这意味着什么。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It requires tremendous attention...
[/font][font=宋体]这需要极大的注意力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...great watchfulness.
...[/font][font=宋体]巨大的警觉。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Seeing, sensation.
[/font][font=宋体]看见，感知。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The speaker has seen some most beautiful things in the world...
[/font][font=宋体]讲话者已经见过世界上一些最美的东西[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...beautiful cars...
...[/font][font=宋体]美丽的汽车[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...beautiful people...
...[/font][font=宋体]美丽的人们[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...please I am not using that in the common sense...
...[/font][font=宋体]请注意我不是在通常的意义上说这些[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...beautiful people.
...[/font][font=宋体]美丽的人们。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Never mind.
[/font][font=宋体]没关系。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So it is natural to look at this world, this enormous beauty...
[/font][font=宋体]观看这个世界是很自然的事，观看非比寻常的美丽[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the destruction, what human beings are doing to the earth...
...[/font][font=宋体]观看人类正给地球造成的破坏[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and see some of the most beautiful gardens in the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]观看世上最漂亮的那些花园[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...houses, palaces, and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]房屋、宫殿等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we have lived in them and all that.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们生活在其中，所有这些。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And never to be identified with any of it.
[/font][font=宋体]永远也不要和它们中任何一件事物认同在一起。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Oh, you don't know all this.
[/font][font=宋体]噢，你不知道这些。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Never asked, 'I wish I had it'. You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]从来不曾要求，“我希望我能拥有它”。你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That requires great perception, watchfulness and clarity.
[/font][font=宋体]这需要很多的觉察、警醒和清澈。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And all that implies a sense...
[/font][font=宋体]所有这些都意味着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...of great inward learning, which is discipline.
...[/font][font=宋体]强烈的内心学习，也就是纪律。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Learning is discipline, not conformity. Do you understand?
[/font][font=宋体]学习是纪律，不是顺从。你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]4th QUESTION: Last question. How is one to live on this earth...
[/font][font=宋体]第四个问题：最后一个问题。一个人该怎样活在世上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...without harm or destruction to its beauty...
...[/font][font=宋体]而不对其美好做任何伤害或破坏[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...without bringing suffering and death to others?
...[/font][font=宋体]不给别人带来痛苦或死亡？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]How is one to live on this earth without harm or destruction...
[/font][font=宋体]一个人该怎样活在世上而不伤害或破坏[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to its beauty, without bringing suffering and death to others?
[/font][font=宋体]其美好，不给别人带来痛苦或死亡？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Have you ever asked this question?
[/font][font=宋体]你们问过这样的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Actually?
[/font][font=宋体]事实上？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not theoretically but actually put that question, face it.
[/font][font=宋体]不是理论上而是真正地思考这个问题，面对它。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Don't run away from it, not explain...
[/font][font=宋体]不要离开问题本身，不要解释说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is necessary and all the rest of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]这是必要的或者其他什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but look at it, confront it.
...[/font][font=宋体]而是观察它，面对它。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Have you ever asked such a question?
[/font][font=宋体]你们问过这样的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not en masse, make a demonstration...
[/font][font=宋体]不是一同进行一次示威游行[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...against some politician...
...[/font][font=宋体]抵制某位政客[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...who wants to destroy a National Park or this or that.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为他想要破坏一个国家公园或者什么。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]To ask such a question...
[/font][font=宋体]问这样一个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that means you are burning with it...
...[/font][font=宋体]意味着你们对此有激情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is something tremendously real...
...[/font][font=宋体]这是一件极为真实的事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not just a fanciful question to pass the time of day.
...[/font][font=宋体]而不是一个想象的问题，为了消磨一天的时间。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]To live on this earth...
[/font][font=宋体]要在世上生活[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with its extraordinary beauty...
...[/font][font=宋体]伴随世界的无限美丽[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and not to destroy it...
...[/font][font=宋体]不要去毁灭它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and to end sorrow...
...[/font][font=宋体]去终结悲伤[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and not kill another...
...[/font][font=宋体]不要杀害他人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not kill another human being...
...[/font][font=宋体]不要杀害其他人类[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not kill a living human thing.
...[/font][font=宋体]不要杀害一个活着的人。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There are those people in India, a certain sect...
[/font][font=宋体]印度某个宗派的人士[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...their transportation is to walk...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们的交通方式就是徒步[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...they take no trains...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们不坐火车[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...no aeroplanes, no carriages, nothing but walk...
...[/font][font=宋体]没有飞机、没有马车，只靠行走[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and they put on a mask not to kill an insect by breathing.
...[/font][font=宋体]他们戴着面具以免呼吸时杀害昆虫。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand? There is a whole group of them.
[/font][font=宋体]你明白吗？这些人有一大群。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Some of that group came to see the speaker...
[/font][font=宋体]这组织里的一些人来见讲话者[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and they walked eight hundred miles...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们走过[/font][font=Times New Roman]800[/font][font=宋体]英里[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from April to January...
...[/font][font=宋体]从[/font][font=Times New Roman]4[/font][font=宋体]月到[/font][font=Times New Roman]7[/font][font=宋体]月[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and never taking any transportation except walking.
...[/font][font=宋体]除了行走从不乘坐任何交通工具[/font][font=Times New Roman].[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And they won't kill.
[/font][font=宋体]他们不杀生。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And there are those who kill...
[/font][font=宋体]还存在一些人，他们杀生[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...kill for sport, kill for amusement...
...[/font][font=宋体]为了好玩，为了娱乐[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...kill for profit...
...[/font][font=宋体]为了利益[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the whole meat industry.
...[/font][font=宋体]整个肉品工业就是这样。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Destroy the earth, to dump poisonous gas...
[/font][font=宋体]毁灭地球，排泄有毒气体[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you know all that is happening in this country...
...[/font][font=宋体]你知道所有这些都在这个国家发生着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...pollute the air, the waters...
...[/font][font=宋体]污染空气、水资源[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and pollute each other.
...[/font][font=宋体]污染彼此。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is what we are doing to the earth and to ourselves.
[/font][font=宋体]这就是我们正在对地球和我们自己所做的事情。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the questioner asks...
[/font][font=宋体]于是提问者问道[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...can we live on this earth...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们能否生活于地球[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with its great beauty...
...[/font][font=宋体]伴随着它的美丽[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and not bring suffering to others or death.
...[/font][font=宋体]而不为别人带来痛苦和死亡。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is a very, very serious question.
[/font][font=宋体]这是一个非常非常严肃的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]To live a life without causing suffering to others...
[/font][font=宋体]要想生活中不给别人造成痛苦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or causing death to others...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者造成死亡[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that means not killing a human being...
...[/font][font=宋体]这意味着不杀害人类[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not killing any animal...
...[/font][font=宋体]不杀害任何动物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...for sport, for your food.
...[/font][font=宋体]为了好玩，为了食物。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand all this?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白这些么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is the question.
[/font][font=宋体]问题就是这个。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There were a certain class of people in India...
[/font][font=宋体]在印度存在这样一群人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...at a certain time...
...[/font][font=宋体]在某个时代[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...they never ate meat.
...[/font][font=宋体]他们从不吃肉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][font=宋体]。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]They thought killing was wrong.
[/font][font=宋体]他们认为杀生是错误的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]They were called at the time, Brahmins.
[/font][font=宋体]他们在那时候被称为婆罗门。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the western civilisation has never enquired into...
[/font][font=宋体]而西方文明从未想过[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...whether killing is right...
...[/font][font=宋体]杀生是否不对[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...whether killing any living thing is justified.
...[/font][font=宋体]杀害任何一个活着的生命是否公正。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]In itself.
[/font][font=宋体]本身是否公正。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The western world has destroyed whole races of people.
[/font][font=宋体]西方世界毁灭了很多人类种族。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This country has destroyed the Indians of this country...
[/font][font=宋体]这个国家毁灭了国内的印第安人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...wiped them out...
...[/font][font=宋体]把他们消灭[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because they wanted land, and all that.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为他们需要土地，以及等等。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So can we live on this earth without killing, without war?
[/font][font=宋体]所以我们能居住在世上而没有屠杀、没有战争么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I can answer it, but what value has it to you...
[/font][font=宋体]我可以回答这个问题，但这对你们来说有什么价值吗[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because you are killing?
...[/font][font=宋体]因为你们还在杀戮？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am not advocating vegetarianism.
[/font][font=宋体]我不是在鼓吹素食主义。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Some author wrote some time ago...
[/font][font=宋体]某个作家过去曾写作[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a cutting was sent to me...
...[/font][font=宋体]把某些段落寄给了我[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...he wrote saying: 'vegetarianism is spreading...
...[/font][font=宋体]他写道：“素食主义在传播[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...like some foul disease in this country.'
...[/font][font=宋体]就像邪恶的疾病在这个国家传播一样。”[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Even if you kill a cabbage.
[/font][font=宋体]即使你杀害了一个卷心菜。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So where do you draw the line?
[/font][font=宋体]那么你在哪里画这道线？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you make a problem of it?
[/font][font=宋体]你是否对此产生了问题？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you are against war, as certain human beings are, including myself...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你反对战争，当然某些人会如此，包括我在内[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...against war, killing other human beings for whatever reason...
...[/font][font=宋体]反对战争，不论什么原因去杀害人类[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then you cannot post a letter. Right?
...[/font][font=宋体]那么你就不能去寄信。对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The stamp you buy, the food you get...
[/font][font=宋体]你买的邮票，你弄到的食物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...all that, part of it goes to defence, armament.
...[/font][font=宋体]所有这些，一部分都去用作防御、军备。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you buy petrol - gas in this country - part of that goes...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你在这个国家买汽油[/font][font=Times New Roman]- [/font][font=宋体]其中的一部分[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...your tax, part of it goes, and so on, so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]成为你的税款，其他部分成为这些、那些等等。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what will you do?
[/font][font=宋体]然后你会怎么做？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you don't pay taxes you are fined or sent to jail.
[/font][font=宋体]如果你不交税你会被罚款或者抓进监狱。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you don't buy stamps you can't write letters, you can't travel.
[/font][font=宋体]如果你不买邮票你不能写信，你不能旅行。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对不对？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Are you following all this? It amuses you?
[/font][font=宋体]你们都跟上这些了么？这令你们发笑了？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So you drive yourself into a corner.
[/font][font=宋体]所以你去往一个角落。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And living in a corner seems rather futile.
[/font][font=宋体]生活在一个角落依然是徒劳的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what will you do?
[/font][font=宋体]你将会做什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you say, I won't travel, I won't write a letter...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你说，我不旅行，我不写信[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...all this helps to maintain the army, and navy, and armaments...
...[/font][font=宋体]所有这些都有助于维持陆军、海军以及军备[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...nationalities, you follow, the whole racket of it.
...[/font][font=宋体]民族主义，你知道，所有这些勾当。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or would you approach it differently?
[/font][font=宋体]或者你会以不同的方式处理？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why do we kill?
[/font][font=宋体]我们为什么杀生？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Religions, especially Christianity, have killed probably...
[/font][font=宋体]宗教，尤其基督教，或许已经杀害了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...more people on earth...
...[/font][font=宋体]地球上的更多人类[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...they have tortured people...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们折磨人们[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...called them heretics, burnt them.
...[/font][font=宋体]称他们异教徒，焚烧他们。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You know all the history of it.
[/font][font=宋体]你们知道这些历史。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The Muslims have done it, the Islamic world has done it...
[/font][font=宋体]穆斯林这么做了，伊斯兰世界这么做了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...probably the Hindus and the Buddhists are the only people...
...[/font][font=宋体]可能印度教徒和佛教徒是仅有的一些人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...their religions forbid.
...[/font][font=宋体]他们的宗教禁止如此。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]How can one live on this earth without killing another...
[/font][font=宋体]一个人如何活在世上而不杀害他人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and causing suffering for another?
...[/font][font=宋体]并且不给他人带来痛苦？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]To go into this question very deeply, really...
[/font][font=宋体]认真地思考这个问题，深刻地真正地[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is a very, very serious question...
...[/font][font=宋体]这是个非常严肃的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is there that quality of love that answered this question?
...[/font][font=宋体]是否存在一种爱的品质可以回答这个问题？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you love another, if you love another human being...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你爱别人，如果你爱其他人类[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...are you willing to kill that human being?
...[/font][font=宋体]你会愿意去杀害那些人吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Would you then kill anything...
[/font][font=宋体]你还会杀害任何生命么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...except you need certain food...
...[/font][font=宋体]除非你确实需要食物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...vegetables, nuts and so on, milk...
...[/font][font=宋体]蔬菜、坚果等等，牛奶[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but apart from that would you kill anything?
...[/font][font=宋体]但是除此之外你会杀害生灵么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Go into all these questions, sir, and live it...
[/font][font=宋体]思考一下这个问题，先生，把它活出来[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...for god's sake, don't talk about it.
...[/font][font=宋体]看在上帝的份上，不要只是谈论它。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is dividing the world is ideals...
[/font][font=宋体]是理想主义、意识形态在分裂着世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the ideology of one group against another group.
...[/font][font=宋体]一个组织相对于另一个组织的意识形态。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This eternal division, apparently an everlasting division...
[/font][font=宋体]这种永恒的分裂，很明显是一种永远持续的分裂[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...between man, woman, and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]在男性和女性之间，以及等等。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]They have tried to bridge this through logic, through reason...
[/font][font=宋体]人们试图通过逻辑、推理在其间搭建桥梁[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...through various institutions and foundations and organisations...
...[/font][font=宋体]通过各种机构、基金会、组织[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and they have not succeeded in any way.
...[/font][font=宋体]但他们从未成功过。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is a fact.
[/font][font=宋体]这就是事实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Knowledge has not solved this problem either...
[/font][font=宋体]知识也没有解决这个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...knowledge in the sense of accumulated experience and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]经验积累意义上的知识等等。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And thought has certainly not solved this problem.
[/font][font=宋体]思想也当然没有解决这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So there is only one issue out of it...
[/font][font=宋体]所以对此只有一件事情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to discover or find out what is love.
...[/font][font=宋体]那就是去寻找或发现什么是爱。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Love is not desire, love is not possession, love is not selfish...
[/font][font=宋体]爱不是欲望，爱不是占有，爱不是自私[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...egocentric activity...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是自我中心的行为[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...me first and you second.
...[/font][font=宋体]我首先而你其次。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And apparently that love has no meaning to most people.
[/font][font=宋体]很明显，这种爱对大多数人来说都没有意义。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]They may write books about it, but it has no meaning.
[/font][font=宋体]人们可能为此写书，但这没有意义。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So is there that quality, that perfume...
[/font][font=宋体]那么到底有没有那种品质、那种芬芳[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that fire, that compassion;
...[/font][font=宋体]那种火焰、那种慈悲；[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and compassion has its intelligence...
...[/font][font=宋体]而慈悲拥有自身的智慧[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that is supreme intelligence.
...[/font][font=宋体]那是至高无上的智慧。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When there is that intelligence which is born of compassion, love...
[/font][font=宋体]当有这种智慧时慈悲和爱就产生了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then all these problems will be solved simply, quietly.
...[/font][font=宋体]之后所有的问题都会被轻易地、悄悄地解决。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But we never pursue the question to the very end.
[/font][font=宋体]但我们从未把这个问题追问到底。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We may pursue it intellectually, verbally...
[/font][font=宋体]我们可能智力上、语言上追问它了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but to do it with your heart, with your mind...
...[/font][font=宋体]但是要用你的心、你的心灵去做到[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with your passion behind it...
...[/font][font=宋体]用其中的热情去做[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then the earth will remain beautiful.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么，世界将会继续美好。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And then there is a great sense of beauty in oneself.
[/font][font=宋体]而你自己的内在也会有一种巨大的美的感觉。[/font][/color][/align][/align][font=Times New Roman][color=#000000] [/color][/font]

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