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Sue 发表于 2009-11-23 19:36

注意力和秩序 讲话四 ——小a翻译，MUTE校对

[align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is the last talk...
[/font][font=宋体]这是最后一讲[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or conversation between two friends.
...[/font][font=宋体]或者说最后一次两个朋友间的对话。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We have been talking during the last three talks...
[/font][font=宋体]在过去的三次谈话中我们一直在讨论[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...about various aspects of life.
...[/font][font=宋体]有关生活的各个方面。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We said how important it is...
[/font][font=宋体]我们说过这些有多么重要[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to have the capacity to doubt...
...[/font][font=宋体]拥有质疑的能力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to question everything that is taking place in the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]去质疑世界上正在发生的每一件事[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not only externally but also inwardly - all our thoughts...
...[/font][font=宋体]不仅仅是外在的还包括内在的[/font][font=Times New Roman] - [/font][font=宋体]我们所有的思想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...our feelings...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们的各种感受[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if one is aware of one's own illusions...
...[/font][font=宋体]如果一个人注意到他自己的幻觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to question all those.
...[/font][font=宋体]去质疑所有这些。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because scepticism without cynicism...
[/font][font=宋体]因为不带有犬儒主义色彩的怀疑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has a great beneficial effect.
...[/font][font=宋体]会让你受益匪浅。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Our brains are programmed for two thousand years...
[/font][font=宋体]我们的大脑被程序化了两千余年[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...according to the Christian world, and the Hindus...
...[/font][font=宋体]根据基督教的世界，以及印度教[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the Buddhists, three to five thousands years.
...[/font][font=宋体]和佛教，已有[/font][font=Times New Roman]3[/font][font=宋体]到[/font][font=Times New Roman]5[/font][font=宋体]千年。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]They have been programmed like a computer...
[/font][font=宋体]人们就像电脑一样被程序化[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...Catholics, Americans, Russians...
...[/font][font=宋体]天主教徒、美国人、俄国人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...believers, non-believers...
...[/font][font=宋体]信教者、非信教者[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...specialists, psychoanalysts, psychiatrists...
...[/font][font=宋体]专家、心理分析学家、精神病学家[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and so on, scientists, doctors.
...[/font][font=宋体]等等，科学家、医生。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We have been programmed, and of that there is no doubt...
[/font][font=宋体]我们都被程序化，并且对其没有质疑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because this programming has resulted in our being conditioned.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为这种程序化已经导致了我们是被禁锢的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And unless we question, doubt...
[/font][font=宋体]除非我们质疑、怀疑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...have a great deal of sane scepticism...
...[/font][font=宋体]拥有强大的理智的怀疑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the brain can never be free.
...[/font][font=宋体]否则我们的大脑将永远不能自由。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And freedom and to be free are two different things.
[/font][font=宋体]解脱和自由是两件不同的事情。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If we may go into all that.
[/font][font=宋体]我是否可以谈论下这些。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are going to talk about various things this morning...
[/font][font=宋体]今天上午，我们将要谈论各种不同的事物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...freedom, desire...
...[/font][font=宋体]解脱、欲望[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the importance of thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想的重要性[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and what is religion...
...[/font][font=宋体]什么是宗教[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...upon which most civilisations are based...
...[/font][font=宋体]大多数的文明是基于宗教的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...most cultures are born...
...[/font][font=宋体]大多数文化也是来源于[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...out of this religious aspect of life.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们生活中宗教的方面。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And also we are going to talk over together...
[/font][font=宋体]并且我们将一起来谈论[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the very complex problem of what is meditation.
...[/font][font=宋体]什么是冥想，这个极为复杂的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]All this we are going to talk over together this morning.
[/font][font=宋体]以上这些就是我们将要在今天早上一起谈论的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And also, if one may remind you again...
[/font][font=宋体]并且，如果我可以重新提醒你们一下[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if it is not too repetitive...
...[/font][font=宋体]假如这不会很罗嗦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that this is not in any way entertainment...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们谈论的这些绝不是消遣[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not something you attend for a weekend...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是你周末会去参加的什么活动[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and forget all about it afterwards.
...[/font][font=宋体]过后却把它忘得一干二净。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But rather it is concerned with our daily life...
[/font][font=宋体]而它是与我们的生活息息相关的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which has become so disturbed...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们的生活已变得如此扰乱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...chaotic, uncertain, confused.
...[/font][font=宋体]混乱、不确定、迷惑。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And this conditioning...
[/font][font=宋体]这种总是带着前提条件的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...this being programmed...
...[/font][font=宋体]总是被程序化的情况[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...one must understand the nature of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]每个人都必须理解到它的本质[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and see whether it is possible at all to be free of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]去看看究竟是否可能从中解脱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...otherwise there can be no creation...
...[/font][font=宋体]否则就不会存在创造[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it will all be invention.
...[/font][font=宋体]而将全部是发明。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Invention is totally different from creation.
[/font][font=宋体]发明和创造完全不同。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]A technical invention is the product of thought.
[/font][font=宋体]一项技术上的发明是思想的产物。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Invention along any lines...
[/font][font=宋体]各个领域的发明[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...poetic, religious, technological and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]诗歌上的、宗教领域的、技术的等等[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that's fairly comparatively easy...
...[/font][font=宋体]相对来讲都是十分简单的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but to find out...
...[/font][font=宋体]但想要找出[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as most religions have tried to find out...
...[/font][font=宋体]正如大多数宗教曾试图找出的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what is creation...
...[/font][font=宋体]什么是创造[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and to understand the nature of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]并且理解它的本质[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the depth of it, and the beauty of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]它的深邃、它的美丽[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...one must understand and be free from being programmed.
...[/font][font=宋体]人就必须理解并脱离程序化。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what is it to be free?
[/font][font=宋体]那么什么是自由？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Freedom is from something...
[/font][font=宋体]解脱总是指从什么当中解脱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...freedom from our own misery...
...[/font][font=宋体]从我们的痛苦中解脱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from our own troubles and problems...
...[/font][font=宋体]从我们的烦恼和问题中解脱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...free to have an economic society...
...[/font][font=宋体]自由地拥有一个经济社会[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that is providing for all human beings...
...[/font][font=宋体]这个社会能为所有人类提供他们所需的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a society that is not too corrupt and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]一个不那么腐败的社会等等[/font][font=Times New Roman].[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Freedom from our own bondage...
[/font][font=宋体]从我们自己的束缚中解脱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from our own peculiar tendencies, opinions and judgements...
...[/font][font=宋体]从我们特殊的倾向、看法、判断中解脱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in which most of us are entangled.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们大多数都被这些束缚着。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Opinion, judgement, conclusion...
[/font][font=宋体]看法、判断、结论[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is so strong with each one of us...
...[/font][font=宋体]是如此牢固，对于我们每一个人来说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and that prevents perception...
...[/font][font=宋体]并且这阻止了觉察[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...seeing clearly what is going on...
...[/font][font=宋体]清晰地看到正在发生着什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in the world both externally, outwardly...
...[/font][font=宋体]在整个世界，不但包括外在的、表象的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and much more so inwardly...
..[/font][font=宋体]更重要的是内心之中正在发生什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the whole psychological complexity of one's own life.
...[/font][font=宋体]看透彻一个人生命中心理上的整个复杂性。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what is it to be free...
[/font][font=宋体]那么什么是自由[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not freedom from something...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是从某件事物中解脱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which then becomes a reaction.
...[/font][font=宋体]那只是一种反应。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Freedom from capitalism has lead to totalitarianism...
[/font][font=宋体]从资本主义的解脱已经导致了极权主义[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with all its misery and brutality.
...[/font][font=宋体]伴随着它的苦难和残忍。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And freedom from our own particular fears...
[/font][font=宋体]以及从我们自身的特定恐惧中解脱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is still in the area of a reaction...
...[/font][font=宋体]还是在一个反应的范畴内。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...'Oh, if one had freedom...
...[/font][font=宋体]“喔，如果一个人能够[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from some peculiar urge...
...[/font][font=宋体]从某些特定的冲动中解脱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or tendency - one could be so great' and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]或者从倾向中解脱[/font][font=Times New Roman] [/font][font=宋体]他会多么了不起啊”[/font][font=Times New Roman] [/font][font=宋体]等等。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whereas to be free is something entirely different.
[/font][font=宋体]然而自由是一件完全不同的事。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The word 'free' comes from...
[/font][font=宋体]“自由”这个词来源于[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...though etymologically it is not very clearly established...
...[/font][font=宋体]虽然语义上它不能被清晰的界定[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...free, to be free...
...[/font][font=宋体]自由，自由的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...implies in that word love...
...[/font][font=宋体]意味着爱这个字眼[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...amongst other meanings.
...[/font][font=宋体]在其他含义之中。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because we do not really...
[/font][font=宋体]因为我们不是真地[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...comprehend in our own life what it is to love.
...[/font][font=宋体]理解在我们自身的生命中什么是爱。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And if love is the opposite of hate...
[/font][font=宋体]如果爱是和恨对立[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if love is the opposite of jealousy...
...[/font][font=宋体]如果爱和嫉妒对立[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or if love is the opposite of attachment...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者爱和依赖对立[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...every opposite has its roots in its own opposite.
...[/font][font=宋体]这种对立往往又植根于它自身的对立面。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Are we understanding this?
[/font][font=宋体]我们都理解这点吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If one is greedy, as most of us are...
[/font][font=宋体]如果一个人贪婪，就像我们大多数人一样[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the urge is not to be greedy...
...[/font][font=宋体]那么迫切的要求就是不要如此贪婪[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that contradiction is born out of one's own greed.
...[/font][font=宋体]这个矛盾就是诞生于一个人自身的贪婪。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is this somewhat clear?
[/font][font=宋体]这是否清晰点了？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Look, we are having a conversation together.
[/font][font=宋体]注意，我们在一起讨论。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The speaker is not important.
[/font][font=宋体]演讲者并不重要。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The speaker really means it, there is no personal worship...
[/font][font=宋体]演讲者非常郑重的说，这里不应该有个人崇拜[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in all this nonsense, all that kind of stuff is stupid.
...[/font][font=宋体]那将是毫无意义的事情，诸如此类的东西都是愚蠢的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But what he said is very, very important...
[/font][font=宋体]但他所说的是非常非常重要的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be evaluated with scepticism...
...[/font][font=宋体]需要被怀疑的态度来评价[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not accepting a thing that he says.
...[/font][font=宋体]不要随便的接受他所说的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]He is not a professional, expert...
[/font][font=宋体]他不是专业人员、专家[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but together, as two friends...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是大家一起，就像两个朋友[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...examining our whole life, one's own life...
...[/font][font=宋体]去审视我们整个生命、我们自己的生命[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is very complex...
...[/font][font=宋体]生命是非常复杂的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which demands attention, care, perception, observation...
...[/font][font=宋体]这需要注意力、细心、认知、观察[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and as two friends talking over their life...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及两个友人对他们生命的讨论[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...so this is not a lecture, or a sermon.
...[/font][font=宋体]而这不是一堂课或者说教。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]A lecture...
[/font][font=宋体]一堂课[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the meaning of that word is to inform, to instruct...
...[/font][font=宋体]这个词的意思是告知、指导[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we are not instructing or informing...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们不是在告知或者指导[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as though one knows all about life...
...[/font][font=宋体]那样就好像讲话者对生活无所不知[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the other fellow doesn't know about it.
...[/font][font=宋体]而另外的一个人则对它一无所知[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But rather together...
[/font][font=宋体]相反地[/font][font=Times New Roman],[/font][font=宋体]我们大家一起[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and it is important to understand...
...[/font][font=宋体]并且这十分重要去理解[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what it means to work, to think together.
...[/font][font=宋体]大家一起工作、思考的意义。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because very few of us think together about anything.
[/font][font=宋体]因为几乎没有什么人一起思考过任何事情。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You have got so many opinions, so many judgements, and so on...
[/font][font=宋体]你已经有了如此多的看法、判断等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we never think together.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们从来不一起思考。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We have opinions about thought...
[/font][font=宋体]我们有对思想的看法[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...agreement or disagreement...
...[/font][font=宋体]同意或者不同意[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you are not right, I am right, and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]你是不对的，我是对的，等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but the capacity, the demand...
...[/font][font=宋体]但是在一起思考每件事物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that thinking together about everything...
...[/font][font=宋体]的能力、渴求[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...requires a freedom...
...[/font][font=宋体]需要一种自由[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a sense of affection, care, attention.
...[/font][font=宋体]一种慈悲之心，以及关注、注意力。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Otherwise we cannot possibly think together.
[/font][font=宋体]否则我们就不可能一起思考。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then you become a follower, a listener...
[/font][font=宋体]于是你就成为了一个跟随者、一个聆听者[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be informed, to be instructed, to obey.
...[/font][font=宋体]被告知，被教导，去顺从。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are back then in the old pattern again.
[/font][font=宋体]我们也就又回到了旧的模式之中。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whereas if we could think together...
[/font][font=宋体]然而如果我们能一起思考[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what it is to be free...
...[/font][font=宋体]什么是自由[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not what you think is to be free or the speaker...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是你自己或者讲话者认为的自由[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but together find out.
...[/font][font=宋体]而是一起找到答案。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]In that togetherness, if I may use that word...
[/font][font=宋体]这种在一起的情况下，我是否可以用这个字眼[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there is no you and the speaker.
...[/font][font=宋体]不存在你和演讲者。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is only the feeling that we are together examining...
[/font][font=宋体]只有我们在一起探求的感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...looking sceptically, sanely...
...[/font][font=宋体]带有怀疑地、理智地观察[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...into the whole question of one's own...
...[/font][font=宋体]有关个人的全部问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the existence of everything around us.
...[/font][font=宋体]以及存在于我们身边的每一件事物。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The word 'free', to be free has many meanings...
[/font][font=宋体]“自由”这个词，自由有着很多种意义[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but mostly free means to be a friend, to love...
...[/font][font=宋体]但自由大多数意味着成为朋友、去爱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And love is not something...
[/font][font=宋体]爱并不是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that thought can evolve...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想能够演化出的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...put together...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想能够拼凑出的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or can be cultivated.
...[/font][font=宋体]又或者能被培育出的事物。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You can cultivate a garden...
[/font][font=宋体]你可以培育一个花园[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you can cultivate anything...
...[/font][font=宋体]你能够培育任何事物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to plough, to cultivate, to grow.
...[/font][font=宋体]耕犁、耕作、栽培。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But love is not something that thought can cultivate.
[/font][font=宋体]但是爱不是思想能培育出的事物。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So it is very, very important to understand altogether...
[/font][font=宋体]所以这是非常非常重要的对于全面理解[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...very deeply the nature of thought, thinking.
...[/font][font=宋体]思想、想法的非常深刻的本质。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If we really could understand that fundamentally...
[/font][font=宋体]如果我们真的能从根本上理解这点[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then we shall be able to resolve most of our problems.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么我们就可以解决我们大多数的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because we have dozens of problems...
[/font][font=宋体]因为我们有许多问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...of relationship, economic problems, social problems...
...[/font][font=宋体]对于关系、经济问题、社会问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...problems of every kind...
...[/font][font=宋体]各种问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...human beings are burdened with them.
...[/font][font=宋体]人类被这些问题困扰着。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So not only to understand the nature of freedom from something...
[/font][font=宋体]所以不要仅仅理解从某件事物中解脱的本质[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and to be free...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是自由[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...completely free, not from something.
...[/font][font=宋体]真正的自由，不是相对任何事物而言。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And is that possible at all...
[/font][font=宋体]然而这究竟可能吗[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when thought is operating all the time?
...[/font][font=宋体]当思想一直在运转？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So it is important, isn't it...
[/font][font=宋体]这是很重要的，不是么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to understand not only verbally...
...[/font][font=宋体]去理解不仅仅从字面上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or through explanations...
...[/font][font=宋体]又或者通过解释[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the whole movement of thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是整个思想的运作。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because we live by thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为我们依靠思想生存[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...every action is based on thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]每个举动都基于思想之上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in every area, in every sector...
...[/font][font=宋体]在每个领域、每个方面[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in every field of our life both outwardly and inwardly...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们生活中的每个场合，外在和内在上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...thought is operating.
...[/font][font=宋体]思想都在运作着。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We have given thought tremendous importance.
[/font][font=宋体]我们赋予了思想极端的重要性。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And until we unravel the whole structure and nature...
[/font][font=宋体]直到我们解开思想的整个结构和本质为止[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the movement of thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想的运作[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...merely trying to be free...
...[/font][font=宋体]仅仅去试图变得自由[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is to cultivate freedom...
...[/font][font=宋体]也就是培育出自由[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...becomes impossible.
...[/font][font=宋体]这变得不可能。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we are concerned together as two friends...
[/font][font=宋体]那么我们作为两位友人共同来关注[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what is freedom...
...[/font][font=宋体]什么是自由[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and what is it to be totally free?
...[/font][font=宋体]以及什么是完全自由？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And can there be this...
[/font][font=宋体]在自由存在的地方[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...sense of wholeness in which there is freedom, free?
...[/font][font=宋体]这种完整的感觉是不是可能存在？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]See what I am saying?
[/font][font=宋体]知道我在说什么了么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we are going to go into it.
[/font][font=宋体]我们将要谈论它。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]As long as we are programmed - Catholic, Protestant...
[/font][font=宋体]只要我们的大脑是程序化的[/font][font=Times New Roman]- [/font][font=宋体]天主教、新教[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the many thousand divisions of Protestantism, or Hinduism...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及几千种界分新教、印度教[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or the Islamic world, and the Buddhist world...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者伊斯兰世界，以及佛教世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we are being programmed...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们就是被程序化了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and as long as we are being programmed...
...[/font][font=宋体]并且只要我们是程序化的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...our whole brain has been programmed for thousands of years...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们的整个大脑都已经被程序化几千年了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there can be no sense of total freedom.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么就不可能有自由的存在。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is this clear? Are we together in this?
[/font][font=宋体]这点清楚了么？我们一起认识到了么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So is it possible to be free?
[/font][font=宋体]那么自由可不可能？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or must we everlastingly be condemned...
[/font][font=宋体]或者我们必须被永久地惩罚着[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be programmed like a computer?
...[/font][font=宋体]像一台计算机一样被程序化？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Our brain functions...
[/font][font=宋体]我们大脑的功能[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not that the speaker is a professional, brain specialist...
...[/font][font=宋体]我并非一个专业人员、一个脑科专家[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but he has observed many, many...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是讲话者观察了很多很多[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in the course of sixty, seventy years...
...[/font][font=宋体]在[/font][font=Times New Roman]60[/font][font=宋体]、[/font][font=Times New Roman]70[/font][font=宋体]年之间[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...how people's brains work, observing them.
...[/font][font=宋体]人们的大脑如何工作、观察它们。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And also observing one's own brain in operation.
[/font][font=宋体]以及同样观察他自己的运转下的大脑。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It has become so mechanical, repetitive...
[/font][font=宋体]这已经变得如此呆板、重复[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...its very accumulation of knowledge is limiting it.
...[/font][font=宋体]是知识的积累在局限着它。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if you understand this?
[/font][font=宋体]我不知道你们是否理解这点？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When one has a great deal of knowledge...
[/font][font=宋体]当一个人拥有大量的知识[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...about various disciplines...
...[/font][font=宋体]有关各种不同学科[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...like science, being an expert in surgery...
...[/font][font=宋体]譬如科学，成为外科手术专家[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...medicine, telecommunication and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]药物、通信等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...our brain actually becomes very small...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们的大脑事实上变得非常狭隘[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it can expand along a particular line...
...[/font][font=宋体]它沿着一条特定的道路延伸[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but that expansion still is limited.
...[/font][font=宋体]但是这种扩充已然是被限制的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I hope you are getting all this.
[/font][font=宋体]我希望你们都明白这些。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now, is it possible to be...
[/font][font=宋体]现在，是否可能[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...totally free from all this?
...[/font][font=宋体]从这些之中完全自由？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Otherwise we will never know what it is to be creative...
[/font][font=宋体]否则我们就永远不能明白什么是有创造性的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...something totally unthought-of, totally new.
...[/font][font=宋体]一件思想完全无法企及的、崭新的事物。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]'There is nothing new on the earth'...
[/font][font=宋体]“这世上并没有什么新事物”[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but if we accept that slogan...
...[/font][font=宋体]但是如果我们承认这个标语[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then we will never find out what it is to be creative.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么我们将永远不能找到什么是具有创造性[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So to understand this programming...
[/font][font=宋体]所以要理解这种程序化[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and why we accept it, one must go...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及为什么我们接受它，我们就必须[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not only as we went yesterday morning...
...[/font][font=宋体]不仅仅像我们昨天上午那样[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...into the whole desire to be secure.
...[/font][font=宋体]讨论想要得到安全的整个欲望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We went into that very carefully yesterday morning...
[/font][font=宋体]我们昨天上午非常小心地讨论那些[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we won't go in it again.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们不会再一次讨论它。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But also we went into the nature of thought many, many times...
[/font][font=宋体]而且我们已经讨论过思想的本质很多很多次[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but most of us really haven't seen the depth of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]但我们的大多数真的没有看到它的深层次[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the quality of thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想的品质[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...how limited thought is...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想如何被限制[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...though it has done the most extraordinary things...
...[/font][font=宋体]虽然它已经做了最为不同寻常的事[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in the technological world, and also in the psychological world.
...[/font][font=宋体]在这科技的领域，以及同样在心理的领域。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But whatever it has done it is still very limited...
[/font][font=宋体]但无论它做了什么它还是非常局限的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because as we pointed out yesterday...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为正如我们昨天所指出的那样[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there is always the 'more'...
...[/font][font=宋体]总会存在着“更多”[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not only in the technological world...
...[/font][font=宋体]不仅仅在科技的领域[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but also inwardly, the 'more', the 'better'.
...[/font][font=宋体]内心也同样，存在着“更多”、“更好”。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The 'more', the 'better' is measurement...
[/font][font=宋体]“更多”、“更好”是种衡量[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and where there is measurement there is limitation.
...[/font][font=宋体]并且哪里有衡量哪里就有局限。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This has been one of the problems of religious people.
[/font][font=宋体]这已经成为宗教人士的问题之一。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We have gone into this, that is...
[/font][font=宋体]我们已经讨论过这点，也就是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the Greeks, the ancient Greeks...
...[/font][font=宋体]希腊人、古老的希腊人民[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...were concerned with measurement...
...[/font][font=宋体]非常关注衡量的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...otherwise we wouldn't have this...
...[/font][font=宋体]否则我们今天不会有[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...extraordinary technology in the western world...
...[/font][font=宋体]有非比寻常的科技存在于西方世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because the western world has its roots in the ancient Greeks.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为西方世界起源于古希腊人的智慧。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And in India, the ancient people said...
[/font][font=宋体]在印度，古人说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...measurement in any form is illusion.
...[/font][font=宋体]衡量在任何情况下都是幻觉。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You cannot possibly measure the immeasurable.
[/font][font=宋体]你不可能衡量不可衡量的事物。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So there are two contradictory statements...
[/font][font=宋体]所以存在两个相互矛盾的陈述[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...technologically you must have measurement...
...[/font][font=宋体]技术上，你必须有衡量[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and psychologically also we have accepted there is measurement...
...[/font][font=宋体]心理上，我们也同样接受了衡量的存在[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as the 'more', the 'better', the 'becoming'.
...[/font][font=宋体]像“更多”、“更好”、“变成”。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whereas the ancient Hindus said...
[/font][font=宋体]然而古印度人说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...'every form of measurement is limitation.'
...[/font][font=宋体]“任何形式的衡量都是限制。”[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And they said that and forgot all about it.
[/font][font=宋体]他们曾经这样说但是却已经完全忘记了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But probably they never perhaps...
[/font][font=宋体]但是也许他们从来都不曾忘记[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the speaker does not know the full extent...
...[/font][font=宋体]讲话者并不知道这句话的所有延续的内容[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...of their saying because he doesn't read books...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为他不读书[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Measurement implies thought.
[/font][font=宋体]衡量意味着思想。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Thought is based on knowledge, experience and memory...
[/font][font=宋体]思想是基于知识、经验和记忆[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and knowledge is always limited now and in the future.
...[/font][font=宋体]并且知识在现在和未来一直都是有限的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So thought is always limited.
[/font][font=宋体]所以思想是有限的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It can imagine the immeasurable...
[/font][font=宋体]它能够想象不可衡量的事物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it can invent all the gods on the earth...
...[/font][font=宋体]可以创造世上的上帝[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...all the rituals, all that business...
...[/font][font=宋体]所有的仪式、所有的事务[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is extraordinarily unreal.
...[/font][font=宋体]这些都是非常不真实的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So thought can never be free...
[/font][font=宋体]所以思想永远不能自由[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or thought can never bring about...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者思想永远不能带来[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a sense of being totally free.
...[/font][font=宋体]一种完全自由的感觉。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if you understand this.
[/font][font=宋体]我不知道你们是否明白这点。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because thought itself is limited...
[/font][font=宋体]因为思想自身就是有限的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...therefore whatever it does will still be limited.
...[/font][font=宋体]因此不论它做什么仍将是被限制的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And thought is driven by desire, isn't it?
[/font][font=宋体]并且思想被欲望驱使，不是么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we have to enquire into the nature and the structure of desire.
[/font][font=宋体]那么我们需要探究欲望的本质和结构。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The word 'desire' means longing for...
[/font][font=宋体]“欲望”这词意味着渴求[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in expression, which is wanting something more.
...[/font][font=宋体]在表述上，是需要更多一些。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The meaning of that word is that...
[/font][font=宋体]这个词的意思是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...longing for, not having - wanting.
...[/font][font=宋体]渴求，不是拥有[/font][font=Times New Roman]- [/font][font=宋体]想要。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we are going together to understand what is desire.
[/font][font=宋体]那么我们将要一起理解什么是欲望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I do not know if you have observed, not only yourself...
[/font][font=宋体]我不知道你们是否观察过，不仅仅你自己[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but all the people around you...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及你周边的人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the priests, the hierarchy of priests...
...[/font][font=宋体]那些神父、神父统治[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the popes through history, and all the monks of the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]历史上的教皇们、以及世上所有的僧侣[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and all the human beings in the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]还有世上所有的人类[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...being dissatisfied with what they are...
...[/font][font=宋体]都不满足于他们当下的样子[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...they want something more...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们需要更多的东西[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...longing for something more.
...[/font][font=宋体]渴求更多的东西[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Aren't you all longing for something more?
[/font][font=宋体]你们不都是渴求更多的东西么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Aren't we all driven by desire...
[/font][font=宋体]我们不都是被欲望驱使么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be successful, to have money...
...[/font][font=宋体]为了变得成功，为了拥有财富[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to have position, famous...
...[/font][font=宋体]为了获得地位、名誉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you know all that business.
...[/font][font=宋体]你知道所有这些事。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are full of desires.
[/font][font=宋体]我们充满了欲望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And what is the relationship...
[/font][font=宋体]那这之间的关系是什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...between desire and thought?
...[/font][font=宋体]在欲望和思想之间？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please ask this question...
[/font][font=宋体]请问下这个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as two friends talking together...
...[/font][font=宋体]正如两位朋友在一起讨论[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the speaker is saying to the friend, look at it...
...[/font][font=宋体]演讲者跟他的朋友说看着它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...he is asking, what is the relationship between the two...
...[/font][font=宋体]他在问，这之间的关系是什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...desire and thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]欲望和思想之间。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why thought in the religious areas...
[/font][font=宋体]为什么在宗教领域人们的想法[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has insisted on suppression of desire.
...[/font][font=宋体]一直都坚持应该压制欲望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The monks throughout the world have said...
[/font][font=宋体]全世界的僧侣都说过[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you must have no desire, suppress it.
...[/font][font=宋体]你必须没有欲望，压制它。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or identify that desire with something you call god...
[/font][font=宋体]或者向人们所谓的上帝去求证这些欲望[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...your saviour, you know, symbols.
...[/font][font=宋体]询问你们的救世主，你知道，询问欲望象征了什么。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So desire has an extraordinary importance in our life.
[/font][font=宋体]所以欲望在我们的生命中异乎寻常的重要。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And we are not trying to suppress it, or transcend it...
[/font][font=宋体]我们不打算压制它或者超越它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or identify that desire with something nobler, symbolic...
...[/font][font=宋体]又或者为这些欲望找出一些更高尚的象征意义[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...significant, all that stuff, we can wipe out all that.
...[/font][font=宋体]更重要的意义，所有这些东西，我们都要一起扫除。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we are now trying to understand the nature of desire.
[/font][font=宋体]我们现在正试图理解欲望的本质。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You might have heard the speaker explain it before...
[/font][font=宋体]你之前可能已经听过讲话者对它的解释[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but forget what he has said before.
...[/font][font=宋体]但是忘记他之前所说过的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are now afresh...
[/font][font=宋体]我现在重新[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...anew, examining this thing.
...[/font][font=宋体]全新地，再探究这件事。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And to examine one must be not only...
[/font][font=宋体]为了探究，你必须不仅仅[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...free from personal worship...
...[/font][font=宋体]摆脱个人崇拜[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but also there must be freedom from...
...[/font][font=宋体]也不要因为[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the fear of not being without desire.
...[/font][font=宋体]心中仍存有欲望而感到恐惧。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There must be a sense of...
[/font][font=宋体]必须存在一种[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...perception in which there is no distortion...
...[/font][font=宋体]察觉，这其中没有扰乱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...no motive, but to observe very closely...
...[/font][font=宋体]没有动机，而是非常密切地观察[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the whole movement of desire.
...[/font][font=宋体]欲望的整体运作。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Can we go on with that?
[/font][font=宋体]我们可以继续这个问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are sitting under a tree, under several trees...
[/font][font=宋体]我们正坐在一棵树下，几棵树下[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and there is the blue sky through the leaves...
...[/font][font=宋体]透过树叶还有蓝天[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the distant mountains, hills...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及遥远的山脉、丘陵[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the dappled light on all of us...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们身上斑驳的阳光[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and to see all this clearly...
...[/font][font=宋体]清晰地看到这些[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and to see the beauty of all that...
...[/font][font=宋体]看到所有的美丽[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and what is the relationship of beauty to desire?
...[/font][font=宋体]那么美和欲望之间的关系是什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we must also enquire what is beauty?
[/font][font=宋体]所以我们必须问什么是美？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is it all right?
[/font][font=宋体]这没问题吧？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is beauty?
[/font][font=宋体]什么是美？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We will wait for the airplane.
[/font][font=宋体]我们等待飞机。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We'll wait for the airplane to go by.
[/font][font=宋体]我们等待飞机经过。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We are asking, what is beauty?
[/font][font=宋体]我们在问，什么是美？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]A beautiful poem, a beautiful picture...
[/font][font=宋体]一首美丽的诗歌，一幅美丽的画卷[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a beautiful tree in a solitary field...
...[/font][font=宋体]一颗美丽的树伫立在孤独的土地[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the beauty of a wave...
...[/font][font=宋体]波浪的美丽[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the quiet beauty of a blue sea...
...[/font][font=宋体]蓝色海洋的寂静之美[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the beauty of great mountains...
...[/font][font=宋体]雄伟山脉的美丽[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the immensity, their dignity...
...[/font][font=宋体]它们的宽广、庄严[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...their immovability...
...[/font][font=宋体]它们的屹立不动[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the line against the blue sky, snow capped.
...[/font][font=宋体]蓝天下的轮廓、积雪的山顶。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...And all the museums in the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]世界上所有的博物馆[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with their ancient sculptures...
...[/font][font=宋体]都拥有它们古老的雕刻[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...modern paintings...
...[/font][font=宋体]现代的绘画[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the classic statuary...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及古典的雕像[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...most of us have seen all these...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们大多数都看到过这些[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and we say when we look at them...
...[/font][font=宋体]并且我们看到他们时会说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...how extraordinarily beautiful they are.
...[/font][font=宋体]他们是如此的超乎寻常的美丽。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you have seen the Parthenon in Greece for the first time...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你第一次看到希腊的帕提农神殿[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you almost go on your knees to the beauty of the structure.
...[/font][font=宋体]你几乎会为这构造之美而下跪。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And when you see a beautiful man, or a woman, or a child specially...
[/font][font=宋体]当你看到一个特别美丽的男子、或者女人呢，又或者一个孩子[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and you are breathless for a moment...
...[/font][font=宋体]你暂时无法呼吸[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with all the beauty of this world.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为这世上所有的美丽。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And does beauty lie in the perceiver?
[/font][font=宋体]美是否存在于感知美的这个人之中？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is beauty a matter of instruction...
[/font][font=宋体]美是可以教授的吗[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...being well informed about all the paintings in the world...
...[/font][font=宋体]了然于心世界上所有著名的画作[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...who painted it from modern Picasso...
...[/font][font=宋体]画作的作者是谁从现代的毕加索[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to the ancient Masaccio and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]到古老的马萨乔等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be well informed, to talk about it...
...[/font][font=宋体]对那些了如指掌，并且谈论它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you know, play with it, is all that beauty?
...[/font][font=宋体]你知道，以此消遣，这些都是美么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what is beauty?
[/font][font=宋体]那么美是什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When do you perceive beauty?
[/font][font=宋体]你什么时候感受到美？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]In the face, in the mountain...
[/font][font=宋体]在面孔中，在山脉中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in a tree, or the slip of a moon...
...[/font][font=宋体]在树上，或者一牙弯月[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when the first moon appears...
...[/font][font=宋体]当初月升起[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...just a sliver...
...[/font][font=宋体]不过细细一牙[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the quietness of a still evening...
...[/font][font=宋体]宁静之夜的寂静[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when do you perceive all this?
...[/font][font=宋体]你什么时候感觉到所有这些？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the word 'beauty'...
[/font][font=宋体]“美”这个词[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...seems to suffice for most of us, just to say...
...[/font][font=宋体]似乎我们大多数人仅仅满足于，称赞一句[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...'How beautiful it is', and go on the next thing.
...[/font][font=宋体]“它是多么美”，然后就去做下一件事了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You see marvellous paintings of Leonardo da Vinci...
[/font][font=宋体]你看到美妙绝伦的绘画，达芬奇的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or Michelangelo and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]米开朗基罗的等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and then go off and have tea.
...[/font][font=宋体]然后离开去喝茶。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is what we generally do.
[/font][font=宋体]这就是我们常做的事。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We never really go into the question of what is beauty.
[/font][font=宋体]我们从未真地考虑什么是美的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And when do you perceive this sense of immense...
[/font][font=宋体]你何时感受到这种无限的感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...immensity and the truth of beauty?
...[/font][font=宋体]美的无限和真相？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you see a great mountain...
[/font][font=宋体]当你看到一个广阔山脉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with the deep valleys and the snow...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及深深的峡谷和雪[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...against the blue sky...
...[/font][font=宋体]在蓝天的衬托下[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...aren't you for a second...
...[/font][font=宋体]你有没有在那一刻[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...by the dignity and the majesty of the mountain...
...[/font][font=宋体]由于山脉的庄严和威严[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...for a second you have forgotten all your problems...
...[/font][font=宋体]那一刻你忘记了你所有的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you have forgotten all your misery...
...[/font][font=宋体]你忘记了你所有的痛苦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...confusion, sorrows, and all the rest of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]迷惑、悲伤，以及所有这些[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and that great immensity of a snow-capped peak...
...[/font][font=宋体]那被雪覆盖的山峰的无限宽广[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...drives you away...
...[/font][font=宋体]带你离开[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...drives your self away.
...[/font][font=宋体]带离了你自身。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right? Haven't you noticed all this?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？你们注意到过这些么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So beauty can only exist when the self is not.
[/font][font=宋体]所以美只有在没有自我的时才存在。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When the mind, when the brain is not chattering...
[/font][font=宋体]当思想，当大脑不再作祟[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...caught in a net of words...
...[/font][font=宋体]被一堆词汇束缚[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when it is really utterly quiet...
...[/font][font=宋体]当它真的完全的安静[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when there is total absence of the 'me'...
...[/font][font=宋体]当完全不存在‘自我’的时候[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the self, the ego, the persona...
...[/font][font=宋体]自己、自我、角色[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then you really see the extraordinary sense of beauty...
...[/font][font=宋体]之后你就真地感觉到非凡的美[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...of the world, of the tree and the sky.
...[/font][font=宋体]世界的美，树和天空的美。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And what is the relationship of that...
[/font][font=宋体]这之间的关系是什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...sense of extraordinary beauty to desire?
...[/font][font=宋体]那种极其之美的感觉和欲望之间的关系？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We want to capture that beauty...
[/font][font=宋体]我们想要获得那份美丽[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we want to hold it, to live with it...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们希望抓住它，和它一起生活[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to have this sense of utter...
...[/font][font=宋体]拥有这种彻底的感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be totally free from all the turmoil...
...[/font][font=宋体]完全摆脱所有的混乱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the noise and the vulgarity of the world.
...[/font][font=宋体]世界的噪声和粗俗。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we must enquire rationally...
[/font][font=宋体]所以我们必须理智地问[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...clearly and sanely...
...[/font][font=宋体]清晰地、理智的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what is desire?
...[/font][font=宋体]什么是欲望？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Desire has built a great many things in life...
[/font][font=宋体]欲望已经在生活中建造了很多的事物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...great architecture...
...[/font][font=宋体]了不起的建筑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and also created wars and destruction and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]并创造了战争和毁灭等等。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we must really understand this tremendous urge...
[/font][font=宋体]所以我们必须真地理解这种巨大的冲动[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that human beings have...
...[/font][font=宋体]这种人类拥有的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...of which we are slaves.
...[/font][font=宋体]奴役着我们的冲动。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you sit under these trees...
[/font][font=宋体]当你们坐在这些树下[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and look at the beauty of the light...
...[/font][font=宋体]看到阳光的美丽[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...although it is somewhat hot unfortunately...
...[/font][font=宋体]尽管不幸的是天气有点儿热[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you have a great sense of sensation, don't you...
...[/font][font=宋体]你拥有一种强烈的感知，不是么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...your senses are awake if you are alert...
...[/font][font=宋体]如果你留心你的感知就会唤醒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...your senses respond to all this.
...[/font][font=宋体]你的感知对这些都做着回应。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the sensation of these trees, the light...
[/font][font=宋体]所以对这些树的感知，对阳光[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the hills, the quietness, awakens sensation.
...[/font][font=宋体]群山，宁静的唤醒的感知。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you see the Pacific as you go along the highway...
[/font][font=宋体]当你沿着高速公路看到太平洋的时候[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...can you look at all that water with all your senses?
...[/font][font=宋体]你能用你全部的感知看到所有那些水么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Have you ever done it...
[/font][font=宋体]你曾这样做过么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with all your senses fully alive, alert?
...[/font][font=宋体]用你的感知，完全活力的、灵敏的？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then in that total sensation...
[/font][font=宋体]在那种完全的感知当中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with all your senses, not partially...
...[/font][font=宋体]用你所有的感触，不是部分的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...one operating more than the other, but the whole organism...
...[/font][font=宋体]一部分运转超过其他部分，而是整个机体[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the nerves, the whole entity of a human...
...[/font][font=宋体]神经，整个人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when you give such tremendous attention...
...[/font][font=宋体]当你给予如此巨大的注意力时[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with your sensation...
...[/font][font=宋体]用你的感知[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...have you noticed there is no self at all...
...[/font][font=宋体]你有没有注意到完全没有了自我[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there is no me at all?
...[/font][font=宋体]根本没有自己的存在？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We will come to that presently.
[/font][font=宋体]我们一会儿将谈论这点。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we live with sensations.
[/font][font=宋体]我们随时随地都拥有感知。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is fairly obvious.
[/font][font=宋体]这是显而易见的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]These sensations are taken over by thought...
[/font][font=宋体]这些感知被思想替代了[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and given a shape, or an image.
...[/font][font=宋体]然后给出了一个形状或者一个形象。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]To make it very simple...
[/font][font=宋体]举个非常简单的例子[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you see something beautiful in a shop...
...[/font][font=宋体]你看到商店里某件漂亮的东西[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you go inside...
...[/font][font=宋体]然后你进去[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...touch it, contact with it...
...[/font][font=宋体]触摸它，接触它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...feel the quality of the silk, or the material...
...[/font][font=宋体]感受丝绸的质地，或者材质[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there is sensation. Right?
...[/font][font=宋体]这是感知。对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then thought comes along and says...
[/font][font=宋体]然后思想出现并说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...'How marvellous if I had it...
...[/font][font=宋体]“如果我得到它将多么棒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...how nice it would look on me.' Right?
...[/font][font=宋体]在我戴上它将是多么漂亮。”对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When thought creates the image out of the sensation...
[/font][font=宋体]当思想籍着感知创造了形象[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...desire is born.
...[/font][font=宋体]欲望就诞生了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right, have you got it?
[/font][font=宋体]对么，你们明白了么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When thought builds...
[/font][font=宋体]当思想通过感知[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or makes out of that sensation an image...
...[/font][font=宋体]建立或者制造出一个形象[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is having that beautiful shirt...
...[/font][font=宋体]也就是拥有那件漂亮的衬衫[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or that robe, or that car...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者那件长袍，又或者那辆车[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or that house, or the refrigerator, whatever you want...
...[/font][font=宋体]那栋房子、那个冰箱，任何你想要得到的东西[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then at that moment desire is born.
...[/font][font=宋体]那一刻欲望就诞生了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is so clear and obvious if one perceives...
[/font][font=宋体]这是如此清晰和显而易见如果你时刻察觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...every second, the whole movement of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]每一秒钟，欲望的全部运作过程[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which requires great attention, not to miss a thing.
...[/font][font=宋体]这要求巨大的注意力，不错过任何一件事。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the question is...
[/font][font=宋体]于是问题就是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...giving shape to that sensation by thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]当思想对那种感知给予了一种形状[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as an image, as a picture, a pleasure...
...[/font][font=宋体]使之成为一个形象、一幅画面、一种快乐[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...at that second desire is born.
...[/font][font=宋体]那一刻欲望诞生了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now the question is...
[/font][font=宋体]现在的问题是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...can there be a wide interval...
...[/font][font=宋体]这之间是否存在一个明显的间隔[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...between sensation and thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]在感知和思想之间[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...creating an image of that sensation?
...[/font][font=宋体]创造出了感知的一个具象？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand? An interval.
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？一个间隔。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That requires tremendous attention...
[/font][font=宋体]这需要巨大的注意力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and where there is attention there is discipline.
...[/font][font=宋体]并且哪里有注意力哪里就有纪律。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand? Oh, come on, sirs, somebody.
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？喔，振作些，先生们，某些人。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Are you all asleep or what?
[/font][font=宋体]你们都睡着了吗？还是怎么了？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is important because...
[/font][font=宋体]这是非常重要的因为[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as we live in conflict perpetually...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们永远生活在冲突之中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to understand conflict is to see the fact...
...[/font][font=宋体]要理解冲突就要观看事实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the conclusion of the fact.
...[/font][font=宋体]以及事实的结论。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The fact, and what we make of that fact.
[/font][font=宋体]事实，以及我们从这个事实当中明白了什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What we make of that fact is an abstraction called idea, or ideal...
[/font][font=宋体]我们从那个事实中获得的是一个叫做想法或者理想的抽象概念[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and between the fact and the ideal there is always conflict...
...[/font][font=宋体]而在事实和理想之间永远存在着冲突[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Move, sir.
[/font][font=宋体]想一想，先生们。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And if we see where there is sensation...
[/font][font=宋体]并且当我们认识到只要感知存在[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is natural...
...[/font][font=宋体]感知是自然的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is healthy, clear, unless one is totally paralysed...
...[/font][font=宋体]是健康的、清晰的、除非你已经完全失去了感知的能力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and thought giving shape to that sensation, the image it represents...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想就会对那种感知给出一种形象，描述感知的形象[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if these two can be kept apart for a while...
...[/font][font=宋体]如果这两件事物可以被分开一会儿[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to keep them apart requires great attention.
...[/font][font=宋体]要分开他们需要巨大的注意力。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And so there is never a suppression of desire...
[/font][font=宋体]所以永远不要有对欲望的压制[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but watchfulness of desire.
...[/font][font=宋体]而是对欲望的观察。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if you understand this.
[/font][font=宋体]我不知道你们明白这点么。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because if you suppress it, it then becomes a conflict.
[/font][font=宋体]因为你如果压制它，它就会变成冲突。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you say, 'I will transcend desire'...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你说，“我将要超越欲望”[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that becomes also a means of conflict.
...[/font][font=宋体]那就会变成同样的一种冲突。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whereas if there is great attention and watchfulness...
[/font][font=宋体]然而如果存有巨大的注意力和观察力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...how thought shapes sensation...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想怎么把感知形象化[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then that attention, that watchfulness...
...[/font][font=宋体]之后注意力、观察力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has its own intelligence...
...[/font][font=宋体]就会有它自己的智慧[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and when it is necessary...
...[/font][font=宋体]当必要的时候[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you go into the shop and buy it, and get on with it...
...[/font][font=宋体]你进到商店并购买它，之后穿上它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but not make conflict about it. You understand?
...[/font][font=宋体]但不会因它引起冲突。你们明白么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you understand some of it at least...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你至少明白其中的一部分[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because this is really important to understand all this...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为这对于理解所有这些真的很重要[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...whether man can live without conflict on this beautiful earth.
...[/font][font=宋体]人类是否能够没有冲突地生活在这美丽的地球上。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We live with conflict all the days of our lives...
[/font][font=宋体]我们生活在每天充满冲突的日子当中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from the most ancient of times until now...
...[/font][font=宋体]从最久远的时代到今天为止[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is our heritage, to live with conflict...
...[/font][font=宋体]生活在冲突之中是我们的传统[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not only externally as war and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]不仅仅是外在的，比如战争等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but also much more inwardly...
...[/font][font=宋体]还同样是内心的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...conflict with each other...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们彼此起冲突[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...conflict in our relationship with each other...
...[/font][font=宋体]在和每个人的关系中起冲突[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...intimate and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]亲密的人等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...whether this conflict can ever end...
...[/font][font=宋体]冲突是否能够停止[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...so that the brain is totally free.
...[/font][font=宋体]这样大脑才会是完全自由的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And that is why it is important to understand the nature of desire...
[/font][font=宋体]这就是为什么理解欲望的本身是重要的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the nature of this sense of immense beauty of life...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及理解这种感觉的本质、生活的无限美好[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...of this earth.
...[/font][font=宋体]理解这个地球。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then we also should go into the question of what is love.
[/font][font=宋体]接着我们同样要进入什么是爱的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Don't let's become sentimental about it...
[/font][font=宋体]我们不要为此变得伤感[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or romantic...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者浪漫[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but when we say, 'I love you'...
...[/font][font=宋体]当我们说，“我爱你”[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what do we mean by that?
...[/font][font=宋体]我们这么说是什么意思？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When a man, or a woman says to the man, or the man says to the woman...
[/font][font=宋体]当一个男人，或者女人对男人说，或者男人对女人说[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or friends say to each other, 'I love you', what does that mean?
...[/font][font=宋体]或者朋友对彼此说，“我爱你”，这意味着什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is the love of a book, love of a poem...
[/font][font=宋体]有对一本书的喜爱，对一首诗的喜爱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...love of sports...
...[/font][font=宋体]热爱运动[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...love of sex...
...[/font][font=宋体]喜欢性[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I love to be famous.
...[/font][font=宋体]我喜欢变得知名。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We use this word so easily.
[/font][font=宋体]我们太轻易的用这个词了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But we have never, apparently...
[/font][font=宋体]但我们从未，很明显[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...gone into the full meaning of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]理解它的全部意义[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what is it to love?
...[/font][font=宋体]爱是什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Love, apparently, has become another means of conflict...
[/font][font=宋体]爱，很明显，已经变成另一种意义上的冲突[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...one loves one's wife...
...[/font][font=宋体]一个人爱他的妻子[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and there is conflict, quarrels, jealousy...
...[/font][font=宋体]这就有了冲突、争吵、嫉妒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...antagonism, divorce, and all the pain of that relationship...
...[/font][font=宋体]对抗、离婚，以及所有因关系带来的痛苦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the pleasure of it too.
...[/font][font=宋体]关系带来的快乐也同样。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we should go into this question very carefully...
[/font][font=宋体]所以我们应该谨慎地讨论这个问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because that may the solution of all our problems...
...[/font][font=宋体]因为那可能是解决我们所有问题的根源[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it may be the one thing...
...[/font][font=宋体]它可能就是关键[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when we understand...
...[/font][font=宋体]当我们明白[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...whether it is in the brain or outside the brain.
...[/font][font=宋体]它是在大脑内还是在大脑之外。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whether love is contained in the brain as thought...
[/font][font=宋体]爱是否和思想一样包含在大脑之中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...anxiety, pain, depression, fear, loneliness...
...[/font][font=宋体]焦虑、痛苦、沮丧、恐惧、孤独[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the whole content of our consciousness.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们的意识的全部内容。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is love part of that consciousness? You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]爱是意识的一部分么？你们明白么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Oh, come on, sirs.
[/font][font=宋体]喔，注意了，先生们。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Or it is outside, totally...
[/font][font=宋体]又或者它是在意识之外的，完全[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...outside consciousness, outside the brain.
...[/font][font=宋体]在意识之外的，在大脑之外。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Probably we have never asked these questions even.
[/font][font=宋体]我们可能甚至从未问过这样的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]One hopes you will not mind asking these questions.
[/font][font=宋体]讲话者希望你们不要介意他问这些问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what is love as we know it?
[/font][font=宋体]那么我们都知道的爱究竟是什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Love brings a great deal of conflict in our life...
[/font][font=宋体]爱给我们的生活带来了大量的冲突[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a great deal of pleasure...
...[/font][font=宋体]大量的快乐[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a great deal of anxiety, fear...
...[/font][font=宋体]大量的焦虑、恐惧[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...jealousy, envy.
...[/font][font=宋体]嫉妒、羡慕。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Don't you know all this?
[/font][font=宋体]你们都知道这些，不是么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So is desire love?
[/font][font=宋体]那么欲望是不是爱？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is pleasure love?
[/font][font=宋体]快乐是不是爱？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is love in the realm or in the field of thought?
[/font][font=宋体]爱是否在思想的范畴之内？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And apparently for most of us it is in that field...
[/font][font=宋体]很明显对于我们大多数而言它在其中[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...conflict, pain, anxiety, and thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]冲突、痛苦、焦虑，以及思想。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And to understand what love is...
[/font][font=宋体]要想明白什么是爱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not understand, you know...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是理解，你知道[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...have the depth of it, the greatness of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]深刻地存在于爱中，它的伟大[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the flame of it, the beauty of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]它的热情、它的美[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...how can there be jealousy...
...[/font][font=宋体]怎么还会有嫉妒[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...how can there be ambition...
...[/font][font=宋体]怎么会有野心[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...aggression, violence?
...[/font][font=宋体]侵犯和暴力？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And can one be free completely of all these things?
[/font][font=宋体]一个人能否完全摆脱所有这些事情？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Please do ask this question.
[/font][font=宋体]请问问这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Where there is love, then do what you will, it will be right action...
[/font][font=宋体]当爱存在时，做你想做的事，它将是正确的行为[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it will never bring conflict in one's life.
...[/font][font=宋体]它永远不会给一个人的生活带来冲突。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So it is important to see...
[/font][font=宋体]所以看到这点很重要[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that jealousy, antagonism, conflict...
...[/font][font=宋体]那就是嫉妒、敌对、冲突[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and all the pain of relationship...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及所有关系中的痛苦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has no place in love, where there is love.
...[/font][font=宋体]在爱中不存在，当爱存在时。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And can one be free of all that...
[/font][font=宋体]一个人可以摆脱这些么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not tomorrow, now?
...[/font][font=宋体]不是明天，而是这个当下？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand my question?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白我的问题吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because as we pointed out yesterday...
[/font][font=宋体]因为就像我们昨天指出的那样[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...time which is the past...
...[/font][font=宋体]时间即过去[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the present and the future...
...[/font][font=宋体]即现在和未来[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...all time is contained in the now.
...[/font][font=宋体]所有时间包含在当下这一刻。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We went into it carefully yesterday.
[/font][font=宋体]我们昨天细致地讨论了这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And if we say, 'I will cultivate love', or 'I will try and get rid...
[/font][font=宋体]如果我说，“我要培育爱”，或者“我想要试着摆脱[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...of my jealousy' and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]我的嫉妒”等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then when you are trying to be free, trying...
...[/font][font=宋体]那么当你试图摆脱的时候，试图[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then you will never be free.
...[/font][font=宋体]那么你就永远不能自由。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I wonder if you understand this?
[/font][font=宋体]我不知道你们明白了没有？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you say, 'I will do my best', which is so silly.
[/font][font=宋体]当你说，“我要做到最好”，这是如此愚蠢。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Which means that one has really not...
[/font][font=宋体]这意味着一个人还没有真地[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...fully perceived the truth...
...[/font][font=宋体]完全察觉到真相[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that all time, the past, the present and the future...
...[/font][font=宋体]那就是所有时间，过去、现在和未来[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...are in the now, now, in the present actually.
...[/font][font=宋体]都在此刻，现在，事实上就在当下。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Because if you don't do something now...
[/font][font=宋体]因为如果你现在不做任何事[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it will be continued tomorrow...
...[/font][font=宋体]明天也将如此[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the future is in the now. You understand this? Come on!
...[/font][font=宋体]未来就是当下。你们明白这点吗？注意了！[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So can one put aside completely...
[/font][font=宋体]那么一个人能不能完全抛开[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...all the causes of conflict...
...[/font][font=宋体]所有冲突的原因[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is the self, the 'me'...
...[/font][font=宋体]也就是自我，这个“我”[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...so that there is this sense of flame...
...[/font][font=宋体]以至于有了热情[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the greatness of beauty, of love?
...[/font][font=宋体]美和爱的伟大[/font][font=Times New Roman]?[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And also we should discuss, if time allows...
[/font][font=宋体]如果时间允许[/font][font=Times New Roman],[/font][font=宋体]我们同样要讨论[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...we should talk over together, what is religion?
...[/font][font=宋体]我们应该一起讨论[/font][font=Times New Roman],[/font][font=宋体]什么是宗教？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]All the organised religions of the world with their rituals...
[/font][font=宋体]世界上所有有组织的宗教以及它们的仪式[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and their fancy dresses and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及他们新奇的服装等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with their symbols, with their making crosses over everything...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及它们的象征物，它们对每件事都画十字[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is all that religion?
...[/font][font=宋体]这些就是宗教了么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The root meaning of that word, etymologically, is not clear...
[/font][font=宋体]这个词的根本意思，语义上讲，是不清晰的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it has been said, religion is a binding...
...[/font][font=宋体]曾经有这种说法，宗教是一种捆绑[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is a bondage between...
...[/font][font=宋体]是一种束缚[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...a bond between man and god, and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]在人和上帝之间的连接，等等。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So when you examine...
[/font][font=宋体]所以当你探究[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and to examine there must be scepticism...
...[/font][font=宋体]要想探究就必须有怀疑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the questioning of one's faith, one's belief...
...[/font][font=宋体]对一个人信仰、信念的质疑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...otherwise you can't possibly examine...
...[/font][font=宋体]否则你就不可能探究[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...find out the truth about religion.
...[/font][font=宋体]找到有关宗教的真相。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Most of us live in illusions about religions.
[/font][font=宋体]我们大多数人生活在有关宗教的幻觉之中。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]We never see that thought has been responsible for all the rituals...
[/font][font=宋体]我们从未认清宗教仪式来自我们的思想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...their dresses and their gods, and their ceremonies, their incense...
...[/font][font=宋体]他们的服装和他们的上帝，以及他们的典礼、香薰[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the whole works are put together by thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]所有这些杰作都来自于思想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So what is religion?
[/font][font=宋体]那么什么是宗教？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the thing is important to find out...
[/font][font=宋体]找出答案是重要的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because man has always from the beginning of time...
[/font][font=宋体]因为从一开始，人类就一直[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has always enquired into this...
...[/font][font=宋体]一直探究这个问题[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is there something more...
...[/font][font=宋体]还有没有更多在事物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...than the mere physical world with all its turmoil...
...[/font][font=宋体]在纯粹的物理世界之外，这个混乱的物理世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...with all its complexities, struggle, pain, and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]它所有的繁杂、争斗、痛苦等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is there something far beyond all this?
...[/font][font=宋体]是否存在超越所有这些的事物？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You are asking that question.
[/font][font=宋体]你正在问这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And somebody comes along and says, 'I know about it...
[/font][font=宋体]然后有人过来说，“我对此了解[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I will tell you all about it'...
...[/font][font=宋体]我将告诉你有关它的所有事情”[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that's how it began...
...[/font][font=宋体]这就是人类的宗教如何产生的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from the ancient Sumerians...
...[/font][font=宋体]从古老的苏美尔人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from the ancient Eqyptians, and the ancient Hindus...
...[/font][font=宋体]从古埃及人，以及古印度人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...they said, we will tell you.
...[/font][font=宋体]他们说，我们将告诉你。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]They became the priests...
[/font][font=宋体]他们变成了教士[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the original people who wrote...
...[/font][font=宋体]最初的做撰经[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...read, and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]诵经等类似事情的人。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]They became the interpreters of that to man...
[/font][font=宋体]他们变成了对人们解释一切的那些人[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and it became a good profession, like any other profession.
...[/font][font=宋体]并且这变为了一种不错的职业就像其他任何职业一样。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And that has continued from time immemorial.
[/font][font=宋体]自古以来，这就一直延续下去。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now to find out what is the religious mind...
[/font][font=宋体]现在想要查明什么是宗教的头脑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...what is the truth of religion...
...[/font][font=宋体]什么是宗教的实质[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...one must be free from all authority, of all belief, faith.
...[/font][font=宋体]一个人必须摆脱所有权威、所有信仰、信念。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not belong to a thing.
[/font][font=宋体]不从属于任何一件事物。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There must be a sense of totally being free.
[/font][font=宋体]必须存在一种完全自由的感觉。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then one can enquire...
[/font][font=宋体]然后一个人可以探究[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or observe, or perceive what is truth...
...[/font][font=宋体]或者观察，或者感知什么是真相[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not the truth or the reality.
...[/font][font=宋体]不是事实或现实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Let's differentiate the two...
[/font][font=宋体]让我们区分这两个[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...gosh, a lot of things to explain, aren't there?
...[/font][font=宋体]天啊，好多事情要解释，不是么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I don't know why one has to explain all this.
[/font][font=宋体]我不知我为什么要解释这些这些。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]I am afraid you are all too learned...
[/font][font=宋体]我恐怕你们学过太多[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you have too much knowledge...
...[/font][font=宋体]你们有着太多知识[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...have read too many books, listened to professors and all the rest of it.
...[/font][font=宋体]读过太多书，聆听过众多专家以及等等这些。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is reality?
[/font][font=宋体]什么是现实？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Reality is that you are sitting there...
[/font][font=宋体]现实是你们正坐在那里[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the speaker is up here.
...[/font][font=宋体]讲话者站在这里。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The reality is the trees...
[/font][font=宋体]现实是这些树[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the reality is nature...
...[/font][font=宋体]现实是自然[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the birds, the ocean, the whales...
...[/font][font=宋体]鸟群、海洋、鲸鱼[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the beauty of those enormous creatures...
...[/font][font=宋体]那些众多创造物的美丽[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in the deep depth of the sea.
...[/font][font=宋体]在海洋的深处。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Reality is what is both externally and inwardly.
[/font][font=宋体]现实是外在和内在的结合。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Nature is a reality, time is a reality...
[/font][font=宋体]自然是现实，时间是现实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and also reality is inwardly the illusion...
...[/font][font=宋体]内心的幻觉也是现实[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that you have created and hold on to that...
...[/font][font=宋体]你创造并维系的幻觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the symbol, the picture, the idealised picture...
...[/font][font=宋体]象征物、景象、理想化的景象[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...however illusory you hold on to that, that is a reality.
...[/font][font=宋体]无论这一切是多么的虚幻，你仍然紧抓不放，这就是现实。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So reality and truth are two different things.
[/font][font=宋体]所以现实和真相是两件不同的事情。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Truth is not a matter of conjecture...
[/font][font=宋体]真相不是推测[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...of speculation, of idealisation.
...[/font][font=宋体]臆想、设想。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is not the invention of thought.
[/font][font=宋体]它不是思想的发明。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And to find that truth - not to find - for that truth to exist...
[/font][font=宋体]要找到真相[/font][font=Times New Roman] - [/font][font=宋体]不是去找[/font][font=Times New Roman] - [/font][font=宋体]因为真相本就存在[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it has been said you must meditate...
...[/font][font=宋体]有人会说，你必须冥想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to find that eternal thing...
...[/font][font=宋体]才能够找到那永恒的事物[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is beyond all measure and beyond all thought...
...[/font][font=宋体]它是无法衡量的，它是思想无法企及的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...beyond all words - you must meditate.
...[/font][font=宋体]它是超越所有的言辞[/font][font=Times New Roman] - [/font][font=宋体]你必须冥想。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And they said too...
[/font][font=宋体]他们也说过[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...in order to meditate you must follow a system, a method...
...[/font][font=宋体]要想冥想，你必须按照一个制度、一种方法[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and we will tell you what the method and the system is.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们会告诉你这方法和制度是什么。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The gurus have played upon this theme endlessly, coining money.
[/font][font=宋体]那些上师们不停地运用这个概念，谋取暴利。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we are going to enquire not how to meditate...
[/font][font=宋体]我们将要探究的不是如何冥想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which seems so silly to ask...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是要问一个看起来很愚蠢的问题[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but what is meditation.
...[/font][font=宋体]究竟什么是冥想。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Why is it necessary to meditate at all?
[/font][font=宋体]究竟冥想为什么是必要的？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Meditation, the meaning of that word is...
[/font][font=宋体]冥想，这个词的意思是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to ponder over, think over.
...[/font][font=宋体]考虑、沉思。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But also it has a deeper meaning: measure...
[/font][font=宋体]但它还有更深的意义：[/font][font=Times New Roman] [/font][font=宋体]衡量[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to meditate also means to measure.
...[/font][font=宋体]冥想同样意味着衡量。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Now meditation is...
[/font][font=宋体]现在所说的冥想是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...being free completely from measurement...
...[/font][font=宋体]完全脱离衡量的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...measurement being comparison...
...[/font][font=宋体]衡量就是对比[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...I am this, I will be that - to compare.
...[/font][font=宋体]我是这样，我想成为那样[/font][font=Times New Roman]- [/font][font=宋体]去对比。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]To live a daily life without a shadow of comparison.
[/font][font=宋体]每一天都活在对比的阴影之外。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Have you ever done it? No.
[/font][font=宋体]你们曾这样做么？不。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]To live like that...
[/font][font=宋体]像这样生活[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...never having an example, never a goal...
...[/font][font=宋体]永远没有标榜、没有一个目标[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...never an end...
...[/font][font=宋体]没有一个终结[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...never having the future...
...[/font][font=宋体]不期盼未来[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is comparison - I am this, I will be that...
...[/font][font=宋体]这些是对比[/font][font=Times New Roman] -[/font][font=宋体]我是这样，我要那样[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to live without becoming, which is comparison.
...[/font][font=宋体]活着而不考虑要变成什么，变成就是对比。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you go to a museum you compare...
[/font][font=宋体]当你去展览馆你对比[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you compare between two materials...
...[/font][font=宋体]你对比两种材料[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...one cloth is better than the other cloth...
...[/font][font=宋体]一件布料比另一件好[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you compare one car with another car.
...[/font][font=宋体]你对比一辆车和另一辆车。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That's natural, that's necessary.
[/font][font=宋体]这是自然的，这是必要的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But to have this sense of inward comparison all the time...
[/font][font=宋体]但心中一直存在这种对比的感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be completely free of that.
...[/font][font=宋体]一定要从心理的对比中解脱出来。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That is part of meditation.
[/font][font=宋体]这就是冥想的一部分。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the brain then is free from all sense of comparison...
[/font][font=宋体]之后大脑就摆脱了所有对比的感觉[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...except where it is necessary, physically...
...[/font][font=宋体]除了必要的时候，物理上[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...car, shirt, clothes, and so on.
...[/font][font=宋体]汽车、衬衫、衣服等等。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Is this possible?
[/font][font=宋体]这可能吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Can one live that way, never comparing?
[/font][font=宋体]一个人能以这种方式生活么，从来不对比？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]See what happens if you don't compare.
[/font][font=宋体]观察一下如果你停止对比会发生什么。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is the end of conflict also. Right?
[/font][font=宋体]冲突也就停止了。对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So meditation is not a practice...
[/font][font=宋体]所以冥想不是一种训练[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not a system, not repeating a mantra...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是一个制度，不是重复一个唱颂[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you know that word?
...[/font][font=宋体]你理解那些唱颂么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You know the meaning of that word?
[/font][font=宋体]你知道它们的意思吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]No. But you repeat it.
[/font][font=宋体]你不知道。但你重复它。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]This is a most marvellous country!
[/font][font=宋体]这是一个最神奇的国度！[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The meaning of that word, mantra, means...
[/font][font=宋体]那个词的含义，唱颂的意思是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...ponder over, not becoming.
...[/font][font=宋体]沉思，不去变成。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And also it means end all self-centred activity.
[/font][font=宋体]它也意味着结束所有以自我为中心的活动。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]The root meaning of that word in Sanskrit...
[/font][font=宋体]这个词在梵文里的本意是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...ponder, consider...
...[/font][font=宋体]沉思、思考[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not becoming, the whole question of becoming.
...[/font][font=宋体]不是变成，整个有关变成的问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And also it means put away...
[/font][font=宋体]它也意味着抛开[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...altogether all self-centred activity.
...[/font][font=宋体]所有自我为中心的活动。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And if you are given some words, and you repeat it...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你被告知一些词语，接着你重复它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you are playing just a game.
...[/font][font=宋体]那你只是在玩一个游戏。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]It is not worth it.
[/font][font=宋体]那是毫无意义的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And the speaker is not telling you not to do it.
[/font][font=宋体]讲话者不是在告诉你们不要这么做。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you want to do it you will do it, if it pleases you...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你想要这么做你就会这么做，如果它令你愉悦[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but it has no meaning, your repetition...
...[/font][font=宋体]但这毫无意义，你的这些重复[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...Ave Maria by the dozen...
...[/font][font=宋体]许多遍万福玛利亚[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...or your particular mantra.
...[/font][font=宋体]或者你特有的唱颂。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So meditation means to be free from fear...
[/font][font=宋体]冥想意味着脱离恐惧[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from all sense of conflict...
...[/font][font=宋体]脱离所有的冲突感[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which we have been talking about...
...[/font][font=宋体]我们已经讨论过[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and also much more seriously...
...[/font][font=宋体]同时也是更为严肃的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the ending of thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]思想的终结。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Whether thought, which is time, has a stop.
[/font][font=宋体]思想，也就是时间是否停止了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You understand?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And so because...
[/font][font=宋体]因为[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if there isn't a sense of being totally free...
...[/font][font=宋体]如果没有一种完全自由的感觉存在[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...the brain then becomes limited...
...[/font][font=宋体]大脑就会变成被限制的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and all its activity will be limited...
...[/font][font=宋体]它所有的活动也将是被限制的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the limitless, the timeless can never exist.
...[/font][font=宋体]无所限制的、超越时间的就永远不会存在。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So we are asking: can thought, which is of time...
[/font][font=宋体]所以我们在问：思想，来自于时间的思想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...which is time itself, can that stop?
...[/font][font=宋体]思想其实就是时间，它能否停止？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Probably you have never asked this question.
[/font][font=宋体]可能你从未问过这个问题。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not you stop it by will...
[/font][font=宋体]不是你用意愿去停止它[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...of course, that's silly...
...[/font][font=宋体]这当然是愚蠢的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you cannot stop by will thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]你不可能用意愿来停止思想。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Will is the essence of desire...
[/font][font=宋体]意愿是欲望的根源[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and desire we explained earlier.
...[/font][font=宋体]我们之前解释过的欲望。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So is there thought...
[/font][font=宋体]那么有没有一种思想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...coming of its own accord to an end?
...[/font][font=宋体]来自于它本身却能终结它自己？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Thought must be used naturally when you drive a car...
[/font][font=宋体]思想必须被自然的运用当你驾驶一辆汽车[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when you go from here to your house, when you cook...
...[/font][font=宋体]当你从这里到你家，当你做饭[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when you wash dishes, and so on...
...[/font][font=宋体]当你洗盘子，等等[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...thought must be there.
...[/font][font=宋体]思想必须在那儿。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]What is the necessity of thought in the psychological world at all?
[/font][font=宋体]在心理世界，思想的必要性究竟是什么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If thought is really understood...
[/font][font=宋体]如果思想真地被理解[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...all its activities...
...[/font][font=宋体]它所有的活动[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...its beginnings, its origin.
...[/font][font=宋体]它的开始、它的起源。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Its origin is experience, knowledge...
[/font][font=宋体]它的起源是经验、知识[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...memory stored in the brain...
...[/font][font=宋体]记忆在大脑中存储[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the reaction to that memory is thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]对于记忆的反应就是思想。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]All this process is limited...
[/font][font=宋体]这期间所有的过程都是受限制的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because knowledge in the future or now is limited.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为知识在现在或未来之中是受限制的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you see, perceive actually the limitation of thought...
[/font][font=宋体]当你真地看到、察觉到思想的局限[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not the imagination of it...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是对于思想的想象[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not the idea of ending...
...[/font][font=宋体]不是结束时的想法[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...but actually see for yourself...
...[/font][font=宋体]而是真正地，自己去发现[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...that thought, whatever it does...
...[/font][font=宋体]思想，无论它做什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...both in the technological world and in the psychological world...
...[/font][font=宋体]不论在技术层面的世界还是心理层面的世界[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...will always be limited.
...[/font][font=宋体]都将是受限制的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]When you see the absolute fact of that...
[/font][font=宋体]当你看到这绝对的真相[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and the necessity of thought in a certain area...
...[/font][font=宋体]以及在某一领域内思想的必要性[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...when you give your total attention to that...
...[/font][font=宋体]当你全神贯注于此的时候[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...then you will find out for yourself thought can end.
...[/font][font=宋体]当你依靠自己发现这一切思想便可以结束。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If you say, 'What then?', then you are lost.
[/font][font=宋体]如果你说，“然后呢？”那么你就迷失了。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Then if you say, 'What is there if thought ends...
[/font][font=宋体]如果你说，“如果思想结束，那里还有什么[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...is there something more?'
...[/font][font=宋体]有没有更多的什么？”[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]You follow how our brain works?
[/font][font=宋体]你明白我们大脑是如何运转的吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]That is, I will see that thought can end...
[/font][font=宋体]那就是，我将会看到思想可以结束[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...if you give me something in return.
...[/font][font=宋体]如果你给我一些回报。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If thought can end you will find out...
[/font][font=宋体]如果思想可以结束你将会发现[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...there will be something totally different.
...[/font][font=宋体]一些完全不同的事物。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And this is meditation.
[/font][font=宋体]这就是冥想。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Not control, not control thought...
[/font][font=宋体]不是控制，不是控制思想[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...because the controller is part of thought.
...[/font][font=宋体]因为控制者正是思想的一部分。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Right?
[/font][font=宋体]对么？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the controller is playing a game.
[/font][font=宋体]所以控制者在玩一个游戏。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So there is always the controller trying to control thought.
[/font][font=宋体]所以总会存在一个控制者试图控制思想。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]But the controller who is also thought is the controlled.
[/font][font=宋体]但是控制者也是思想，即被控制之物。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]There is no division between the controller and the controlled...
[/font][font=宋体]在控制者和被控之物之间不存在界分[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...right through life, if one can understand this profoundly...
...[/font][font=宋体]整个生命之中，如果一个人能够透彻地理解这点[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...you will eliminate altogether conflict.
...[/font][font=宋体]你们将共同消除所有的冲突。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Therefore the brain, which has been conditioned, narrowed down...
[/font][font=宋体]因此大脑，受限的、禁锢的大脑[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...has lost its tremendous vitality...
...[/font][font=宋体]已失去它巨大的活力[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...its great immense capacity.
...[/font][font=宋体]它强大的能力。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]If one is active that way...
[/font][font=宋体]如果一个人像那样行动[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...as you get older and older...
...[/font][font=宋体]随着你越来越老[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it becomes much more active...
...[/font][font=宋体]大脑会变得越发敏捷[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...not that you get senile.
...[/font][font=宋体]而不是变得衰老。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Do you understand all this?
[/font][font=宋体]你们明白这些吗？[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So meditation is something...
[/font][font=宋体]冥想是[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...to be totally free from all bondage...
...[/font][font=宋体]完全摆脱所有束缚的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...from all measurement, from all conflict.
...[/font][font=宋体]摆脱所有衡量，所有冲突。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So the brain becomes quiet, utterly still.
[/font][font=宋体]于是大脑变得宁静、完全的寂静。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And that silence, stillness, has its own beauty, its own truth...
[/font][font=宋体]那种寂静、宁静拥有它自己的美、自己的真相[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...its absolute sense of immeasurable thing.
...[/font][font=宋体]那是一种无法衡量的纯然的感受。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So meditation is not a reward...
[/font][font=宋体]所以冥想不是一种回报[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...it is not something that you get illumined...
...[/font][font=宋体]它不是你通过练习[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...by practising, which is all so childish.
...[/font][font=宋体]就能受到启发的什么东西，那将是非常幼稚的。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]So truth is something which is not to be measured...
[/font][font=宋体]所以真相是不能衡量的[/font][font=Times New Roman]...[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]...and it has no path to it.
...[/font][font=宋体]并且没有通往它的道路。[/font][/color][/align][/align][align=left][align=left][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]And that is beauty, that is love.
[/font][font=宋体]这就是美，这就是爱。[/font][/color][/align][/align][font=Times New Roman][color=#000000] [/color][/font]

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