活着的意义是什么？——fqzhao译

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Question: We live but we do not know why. To so many of us, life seems to have no meaning. Can you tell us the meaning and purpose of our living?

提问：我们的生活漫无目的；对很多人来说，生活显得毫无意义。您能告诉我们生活的目的和意义是什么么？

Jiddu Krishnamurti: Now why do you ask this question? Why are you asking me to tell you the meaning of life, the purpose of life? What do we mean by life? Does life have a meaning, a purpose? Is not living in itself its own purpose, its own meaning? Why do we want more? Because we are so dissatisfied with our life, our life is so empty, so tawdry, so monotonous, doing the same thing over and over again, we want something more, something beyond that which we are doing.

克：你为什么问这个问题？你为什么让我告诉你生活的目的，生活的意义？对你而言生活指的是什么？生活可有一个意义，一个目的？难道生活本身不就是它的意义，它的目的？我们为什么还要更多？因为我们对生活如此的不满，我们的生活是如此的空虚，庸俗，浮华，如此乏味，对同一件事重复一遍又一遍；我们想要一些更多的东西，一些超越我们现在所做的东西。

Since our everyday life is so empty, so dull, so meaningless, so boring, so intolerably stupid, we say life must have a fuller meaning and that is why you ask this question. Surely a man who is living richly, a man who sees things as they are and is content with what he has, is not confused; he is clear, therefore he does not ask what is the purpose of life. For him the very living is the beginning and the end. Our difficulty is that, since our life is empty, we want to find a purpose to life and strive for it.

因为我们的日常生活如此的空虚，麻木，如此乏味，无意义，愚蠢难以忍受，所以我们说生活一定有某种更丰富的意义，因此你会问这个问题。而显然一个人富足的生活着的人，一个看到事情本来面目并满足于自己已有的人，不是迷惑的；他很清醒，因此他不会问生活的意义是什么。对他而言生活本身即是开始和结束。我们的困难就在此，因为我们的生活是空虚的，于是我们想要为生活寻找一个目的并为其奋力争求。

Such a purpose of life can only be mere intellection, without any reality; when the purpose of life is pursued by a stupid, dull mind, by an empty heart, that purpose will also be empty. Therefore our purpose is how to make our life rich, not with money and all the rest of it but inwardly rich - which is not something cryptic.

这样的生活目的只能是一个观念，不是真实；当一个愚蠢，迟钝的头脑，一个空虚的心灵追求生活的目的时，追求到目的也是空虚的。因此我们的目的是让生活富足，不是金钱的而是内在的富足 – 这并不是什么难解之谜。

When you say that the purpose of life is to be happy, the purpose of life is to find God, surely that desire to find God is an escape from life and your God is merely a thing that is known. You can only make your way towards an object which you know; if you build a staircase to the thing that you call God, surely that is not God. Reality can be understood only in living, not in escape.

当你说生活的目的是为了快乐，生活的目的是为了寻找上帝，显然想要发现上帝的欲望是一种对生活的逃避，你的上帝也仅仅是一个已知的东西。你只能寻找一个你知道了的东西；如果搭建了一座云梯通向你称之为上帝的东西，显然那不是上帝。对实相的领会只能在生活中，而不是在逃避中。

When you seek a purpose of life, you are really escaping and not understanding what life is. Life is relationship, life is action in relationship; when I do not understand relationship, or when relationship is confused, then I seek a fuller meaning. Why are our lives so empty? Why are we so lonely, frustrated? Because we have never looked into ourselves and understood ourselves. We never admit to ourselves that this life is all we know and that it should therefore be understood fully and completely.


当你寻找一个生活的目的时，你真的是在逃避而不是在理解生活的本来面目。生活就是关系，生活是关系中的行为；当我不理解关系，或者对它迷惑的时候，我就会寻找更丰富的意义。为什么我们的生活如此空虚？为什么我们如此孤独，忧郁？因为我们从未观察我们的内心以及理解我们自己。我们从未承认这个生活就是我们知道的全部，因此它应该被完全彻底的理解。

We prefer to run away from ourselves and that is why we seek the purpose of life away from relationship. If we begin to understand action, which is our relationship with people, with property, with beliefs and ideas, then we will find that relationship itself brings its own reward. You do not have to seek. It is like seeking love. Can you find love by seeking it? Love cannot be cultivated. You will find love only in relationship, not outside relationship, and it is because we have no love that we want a purpose of life. When there is love, which is its own eternity, then there is no search for God, because love is God.


我们倾向于逃避自己，而这也是为什么我们在关系之外寻找生活的目的。如果我们开始理解行为，即理解我们和他人的关系，和财产，和信念和观点的关系，那么我们会发现这关系本身就会带来固有的奖赏。你不必一定要寻找。就像寻找爱一样；你可以用寻找而发现爱么？爱是无法被培养的。你只能在关系中发现爱，而不是在关系之外；正是因为我们心中没有爱我们才想要一个生活的目的。当心中有爱时，爱之中即有永恒，到那时就没有对上帝的追求，因为爱就是上帝。

It is because our minds are full of technicalities and superstitious mutterings that our lives are so empty and that is why we seek a purpose beyond ourselves. To find life's purpose we must go through the door of ourselves; consciously or unconsciously we avoid facing things as they are in themselves and so we want God to open for us a door which is beyond. This question about the purpose of life is put only by those who do not love. Love can be found only in action, which is relationship.

因为我们的头脑里满是技术和迷信的喃喃自语所以我们的生活如此空虚，也因此我们试图寻找一个超越我们自己的人生目的。要发现生活的目的我们必须穿过自我之门；我们总在有意无意的不去面对事情的本来面目而希望上帝为我们打开超越的大门。生活之目的的问题只会出现在没有爱的人身上。爱只有在行动中才能发现，也就是在关系中。