标题: “通过否定，那本身独自正确的事物就产生了。” [打印本页] 作者: Sue 时间: 2009-12-27 12:33 标题: “通过否定，那本身独自正确的事物就产生了。”
"Through negation that thing which alone is the positive comes into being."
“通过否定，那本身独自正确的事物就产生了。”
From "Awakening of Intelligence", on page 196 in the chapter on Freedom.
来自《智慧的觉醒》（英文版），196页，“论自由”这一章。
K: I negate totally the idea of success.
克：我完全否定成功的想法。
A: Yes, I negate totally.
安：是的，我完全否定。
K: Totally. Not only in the mundane world, not only in the sense of achievement in a world of money, position, authority, I negate that completely, and I also negate success in the so-called spiritual world.
克：完全地否定。不只是世俗世界的成功，不只是金钱、地位、权威意义上的成功，我完全否定这些，同时我也完全否定所谓的灵性世界的成功。
A: Oh, yes. Quite, the temptation.
安：哦，是的。没错，那种诱惑。
K: Both are the same. Only I call that spiritual and I call that physical, moral, mundane. So in negating success, achievement, there comes an energy. Through negation there is a tremendous energy to act totally different which is not in the field of success, in the field of imitation, conformity and all that. So through negation, I mean actual negation, actual negation not just ideal negation, through actual negation of that which is immoral, morality comes into being.
克：都是一样的。只是我把它称为灵性方面的，我把它称为肉体上的，道德上的，俗世的。所以在对成功、达成的否定中，就有了一种能量。通过否定就有一种巨大的能量以完全不同的方式在运作，不是在成功的领域里运作，不是在仿效、遵从所有这些领域里运作。所以通过否定，我的意思是真正的否定，真正的否定不是想象中的否定，通过真正地否定不道德，道德就产生了。
A: Which is altogether different from trying to be moral.
安：这与试图变得道德完全不是一回事。
K: Yes, yes. Of course, trying to be moral is immoral.
克：是的，是的。当然，试图变得道德就是不道德。
摘自SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA 19TH FEBRUARY 1974 3RD CONVERSATION WITH DR. ALLAN W. ANDERSON 'RESPONSIBILITY'作者: Sue 时间: 2009-12-27 12:34
K: ...If I see something clearly, the action is immediate. So, sir, to negate implies diligence. The word called diligence means giving complete attention to the fact of success - we are taking that word. Giving my whole attention to success, in that attention, the whole map of success is revealed.
克：...如果我看清了某件事，行动立即发生。所以，先生，否定意味着勤勉。勤勉这个词意味着全神贯注地去观察成功这个事实----我们用这个词举个例子。投入我所有的注意力去看成功这件事，在那全神贯注中，成功的整个地图就展开了。
A: With all its horrors.
安：连同它的所有那些恐怖的东西。
K: With all the things involved in it and it is only then the seeing is the doing. Then it is finished. And the mind can never revert to success and therefore become bitter and all the things that follow.
克：连同其中涉及的所有东西，只有这时，看到就是行动。然后就结束了。心智就再也不会回头去追求成功，也就不会因此变得更残酷以及其他随之而来的那些东西。
A: What you are saying, I take it, is that once this happens, there is no reversion.
安：你说的意思，我理解是，一旦发生，就不会退回去。
K: It is finished. Of course not. Say for instance sir...
克：结束了。当然不会退回去。举个例子，先生...
A: It's not something that one has to keep up.
安：这件事你不用刻意保持。
K: Of course not. ...When you see something as poison you won't take it again. It isn't that you say, "By Jove, I've made a mistake. I should go back and..." It is sir, like seeing danger. When you see danger you never go near it again.
克：当然不用。...（举他解散明星社的例子）当你把某个东西视为毒药，你就不会再吃了。你不会说，“老天，我做了一件错事。我得回去而且...”先生，就像看见危险。当你看到危险，你就再也不会靠近。
（出处同上。）作者: Sue 时间: 2009-12-28 15:56
A: I sense a trick that one can play on himself right here. ... One can begin with the notion that he is going to make this negation in order to attain to something better.
安：我感觉在这里人可能会跟自己玩一个把戏。...人会从这样一个想法开始：他进行这个否定是为了取得某样更好的东西。
K: Oh no, that's not negation.
克：哦，不，那不是否定。
A: And that's not negation at all.
安：而那根本不是否定。
K: No. Negation is to deny what is false not knowing what is truth. To see the false in the false and to see the truth in the false, and it is the truth that denies the false. You don't deny the false, but you see what is false, and the very seeing of what is false is the truth.
克：不是。否定是否认错误的东西而不知道真理是什么。在谬误中看到谬误，同时在谬误中看见真理，是真理否定了那谬误。你不用否定谬误，但是你看清了谬误的东西，看清什么是谬误，那看清本身就是真理。
出处：SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA 27TH FEBRUARY 1974 15TH CONVERSATION WITH DR. ALLAN W. ANDERSON 'RELIGION AND AUTHORITY - 1'作者: Sue 时间: 2010-1-6 09:36
